Revised maps etc. at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/13280.aspx

Changing at Edgware Road made to seem like a piece of cake in the
blurb.

--
gordon

" wrote in news:65818090-7bfc-4c42-
:

Revised maps etc. at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/13280.aspx

Changing at Edgware Road made to seem like a piece of cake in the
blurb.

--
gordon

No change at Edgware Road required.

Journey planner's first two suggestions for a journey from Earl's Court to
Kings Cross at 19:58 on 17th December having selected no stairs, no
escalators are both District line to Gloucester Road then Circle line via
High Street Kensington...

David

In article . 145,
pleasereplytogroup (David Jackman) wrote:

" wrote in
news:65818090-7bfc-4c42-
:

Revised maps etc. at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/13280.aspx

Changing at Edgware Road made to seem like a piece of cake in the
blurb.

No change at Edgware Road required.

Journey planner's first two suggestions for a journey from Earl's
Court to Kings Cross at 19:58 on 17th December having selected no
stairs, no escalators are both District line to Gloucester Road
then Circle line via High Street Kensington...

That won't be possible after 13 December. There will be no guaranteed
step-free route from Earl's Court to King's Cross.

I tried Fulham Broadway to Kings Cross St Pancras without stairs from the
TfL Journey Planner. Apparently all Edgware Road trains will terminate at
platform 2 at Edgware Road so one can have a stairs free change there.

This would also appear to be because the Journey Planner thinks there will
still be a Circle Line service from king's Cross to High St Kensington on
14 December! Bloody useless!



--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:

That won't be possible after 13 December. There will be no guaranteed
step-free route from Earl's Court to King's Cross.

Yes there will - the Circles will all terminate alongside the Barkingbound
platform, and the Wimblewares will all terminate alongside the
Hammersmithbound platform. (Or was it the other way around?)

Anyway, no-one's mentioned the most important thing. Circle Line pub crawls
will now be 8 pints longer. This could lead to a million deaths from alcohol
poisoning. Or at the very least increase national expenditure on underpants,
at a time when Britain, despite Gordon Brown's statements to the contrary,
is the nation least well equipped to weather the storm of increased
underpant expenditure.

--
We are the Strasbourg. Referendum is futile.

In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

wrote:

That won't be possible after 13 December. There will be no guaranteed
step-free route from Earl's Court to King's Cross.

Yes there will - the Circles will all terminate alongside the
Barkingbound platform, and the Wimblewares will all terminate
alongside the Hammersmithbound platform. (Or was it the other way
around?)

So, two changes will be necessary for step-free access from the Wimbledon
branch to King's Cross? It's not what the TfL Journey Planner is saying
(in either direction)!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:24:19 +0000, Basil Jet wrote:

wrote:

That won't be possible after 13 December. There will be no guaranteed
step-free route from Earl's Court to King's Cross.

Yes there will - the Circles will all terminate alongside the
Barkingbound platform, and the Wimblewares will all terminate alongside
the Hammersmithbound platform. (Or was it the other way around?)

Is that guaranteed? If trains arrive out of sequence (e.g., a Wimbleware
was running late at Earl's Court so a Circle snuck ahead of it into High
St Kensington), will the second Circle really wait for the first one to
depart (thereby holding up the trains behind it as well) rather than
simply taking the available track? And then the two back-to-back
Wimblewares would have a similar problem.

(It pretty much has to be guaranteed if people who can't climb stairs are
expected to rely on it.)

New York has two two-track terminals laid out like Edgware Rd: Brighton
Beach on the B and 57 St/7 Av on the Q. In both cases, cross-platform
transfers are available (guaranteed!) at the previous stop; regular
riders who need to transfer know not to wait until the terminal.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA

In article ,
(David of Broadway) wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:24:19 +0000, Basil Jet wrote:

wrote:

That won't be possible after 13 December. There will be no guaranteed
step-free route from Earl's Court to King's Cross.

Yes there will - the Circles will all terminate alongside the
Barkingbound platform, and the Wimblewares will all terminate
alongside the Hammersmithbound platform. (Or was it the other way
around?)

Is that guaranteed? If trains arrive out of sequence (e.g., a
Wimbleware was running late at Earl's Court so a Circle snuck ahead
of it into High St Kensington), will the second Circle really wait
for the first one to depart (thereby holding up the trains behind
it as well) rather than simply taking the available track? And
then the two back-to-back Wimblewares would have a similar problem.

(It pretty much has to be guaranteed if people who can't climb
stairs are expected to rely on it.)

New York has two two-track terminals laid out like Edgware Rd:
Brighton Beach on the B and 57 St/7 Av on the Q. In both cases,
cross-platform transfers are available (guaranteed!) at the
previous stop; regular riders who need to transfer know not to wait
until the terminal.

Wimbleware to Kings Cross pax have of course got exactly that guarantee at
Paddington (and stations from High St) now but will lose it from December.
That is precisely my gripe.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:02:31PM -0600, wrote:

This would also appear to be because the Journey Planner thinks there will
still be a Circle Line service from king's Cross to High St Kensington on
14 December! Bloody useless!

There will be. It'll just take a long time, going the wrong way roudn
the circle.

--
David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age

THIS IS THE LANGUAGE POLICE
PUT DOWN YOUR THESAURUS
STEP AWAY FROM THE CLICHE

David Cantrell wrote:

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:02:31PM -0600,
wrote:

This would also appear to be because the Journey Planner thinks
there will still be a Circle Line service from king's Cross to High
St Kensington on 14 December! Bloody useless!

There will be. It'll just take a long time, going the wrong way roudn
the circle.

Or going via Hammersmith.

In article ,
(solar penguin) wrote:

David Cantrell wrote:

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:02:31PM -0600,
wrote:

This would also appear to be because the Journey Planner thinks
there will still be a Circle Line service from king's Cross to High
St Kensington on 14 December! Bloody useless!

There will be. It'll just take a long time, going the wrong way roudn
the circle.

Or going via Hammersmith.

No effing use for users of the Wimbledon branch!

--
Colin Rosenstiel