We wanted to go up to the new years day parade today - but oh what a surprise
- the tube is doing a 1 train every half hour service in the burbs. Fantastic.
Good to know the people running public transport really have the public
interest at heart.

And have the fares gone up yet too? Wouldn't surprise me.

B2003

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:52:26 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

We wanted to go up to the new years day parade today - but oh what a
surprise - the tube is doing a 1 train every half hour service in the
burbs. Fantastic. Good to know the people running public transport
really have the public interest at heart.

This is no different from last year. Services increase in frequency from
around 1100 or so.

What was different was no free tube travel last night, just buses and
trams, I gather.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:

This is no different from last year. Services increase in frequency from
around 1100 or so.

What was different was no free tube travel last night, just buses and
trams, I gather.


Tubes were free, I thought? National Rail wasn't, owing to TfL not
paying for it, although I'm sure a lot of non-payment went on. Some
routes were apparently offering free services, but the information, as
is traditional nowadays with London transport services, was
contradictory and hard to come by.

Tom

In message , at 07:56:34
on Fri, 1 Jan 2010, remarked:
This is no different from last year. Services increase in frequency from
around 1100 or so.

What was different was no free tube travel last night, just buses and
trams, I gather.

The news broadcasts I saw, mentioned "free public transport until
4.30am".
--
Roland Perry

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:56:34 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:52:26 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

We wanted to go up to the new years day parade today - but oh what a
surprise - the tube is doing a 1 train every half hour service in
the burbs. Fantastic. Good to know the people running public
transport really have the public interest at heart.

This is no different from last year. Services increase in frequency
from around 1100 or so.

What was different was no free tube travel last night, just buses and
trams, I gather.

Except, of course, that isn't what was organised. All tubes, DLR, buses
and trams were free from 2345 to 0430. One NR line - Southern (Victoria
to East Croydon) I think - also ran free. All the other NR lines had to
be paid for as I believe the subsidy was withdrawn as a result of TfL
budget cuts.

Ta. It turns out my informant was referring to the TOC train services.

--
Colin Rosenstiel (firmly in Cambridge last night and today)

On 1 Jan, 14:08, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:56:34 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:52:26 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

We wanted to go up to the new years day parade today - but oh what a
surprise - the tube is doing a 1 train every half hour service in the
burbs. Fantastic. Good to know the people running public transport
really have the public interest at heart.

This is no different from last year. Services increase in frequency from
around 1100 or so.

What was different was no free tube travel last night, just buses and
trams, I gather.

Except, of course, that isn't what was organised. *All tubes, DLR, buses
and trams were free from 2345 to 0430. One NR line - Southern (Victoria
to East Croydon) I think - also ran free. All the other NR lines had to
be paid for as I believe the subsidy was withdrawn as a result of TfL
budget cuts.


It was always a fairly empty gesture anyway, if it was applied
correctly, given that most people would have travelcards or would have
got returns which were a few p more than a single, plus the lack of
checks anyway.

So if it really does affect the budget, I wonder who was claiming what
about the cost of it? Was it NR effectively scamming TfL about some
theoretical amount of revenue that would never have been collected in
practice?

In future, it really could make a difference, because PAYG involves
abolishing day returns and funds are collected without staff.

Paul Corfield wrote:

One NR line - Southern
(Victoria to East Croydon) I think - also ran free. All the other NR
lines had to be paid for as I believe the subsidy was withdrawn as a
result of TfL budget cuts.

I thought ING Direct paid for it rather than TfL? Anyway, since everyone had
to pay for their transport to get to the fireworks, the actual subsidy
required to cover the fares for getting home would be relatively small, I
would have thought.

--
We are the Strasbourg. Referendum is futile.

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:06:24 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
And have the fares gone up yet too? Wouldn't surprise me.

Tomorrow - I look forward to your post about it.

Can't be bothered. Pay more money , same **** service. Usual story. Luckily
I'm not a tube commuter any longer so its not an issue for me but I feel
sorry for the people who are.

Though perhaps 2010 is the year LU come up with some new excuses - the
regulating the service BS excuse for delaying a train that I heard twice
today is getting rather tired.

B2003

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:52:26 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
We wanted to go up to the new years day parade today - but oh what a surprise
- the tube is doing a 1 train every half hour service in the burbs. Fantastic.
Good to know the people running public transport really have the public
interest at heart.


Why would it be in "the public interest" to run trains at more
frequent intervals when there is insufficient demand to justify them?

So who should pay for these unnecessary additional trains? Council
tax payers in London? Taxpayers around the UK?

Everyone except you, presumably. ;-)

"Tom Barry" wrote in message
...
wrote:

This is no different from last year. Services increase in frequency from
around 1100 or so.

What was different was no free tube travel last night, just buses and
trams, I gather.


Tubes were free, I thought? National Rail wasn't, owing to TfL not paying
for it,

In past years, free travel has been sponsored.

Did they not have a sponsor for yesterday?

tim