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I don't know

Quite.

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You will encourage enterprise, and according to Conservative
government this will eventually trickle down to help the poorest
member of society.

It doesn't work.

That will explain why the working class have exactly the same living
standards today as they had at the time of (say) William The Conqueror,
then?

I meantersay, no working class family has a television set, or a radio, or a
fridge, or carpets, or a computer, or a car, do they?

That's right. isn't it, Oliver?

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JNugent wrote:

It was Maggie and co that forced an end to tied housing.

Sheer, biased, blinkered, knee-jerk, nonsense.
The tied cottage was being "phased out" (pilloried as a
social anachronism) decades before 1979.
S'funny, that.
Had the tied cottages remained in their original use,
there'd be less need for hand-wringing over the housing
fate of agricultural workers, wouldn't there?

I didn't say it wasn't on the way out, I merely made the point that
Thatcher forced it to end. A subtle but distinct difference that is
obviously lost on you.

The more so because it was a lie.

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Greg Hennessy wrote:

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If you were to believe the CPRE, the SE is currently like
downtown Hong Hong during the rush hour, when the reality
is that approximately 15% of the land within 1 hours
commute of charring cross is built on.

A one hour commute by your favoured mode is only about ten miles at
most. Are you suggesting that there are open fields within that area?

A one hour journey by car can take one (easily) up to 60 miles (probably not
a lot more, unless one lives adjacent to a motorway interchange).

So what are you talking about?

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Mikael Armstrong wrote:
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"Robin May" wrote in
message
.4...
Living many miles away from where you work and having to
travel a long distance to get there is something that
should be discouraged. Not encouraged so that the rich
can
buy another castle and leave it empty for most of the
year.

Very true, so why not let people build a few more houses
in
such areas? The main problem is the lack of supply that is
driving up the prices.

errrr, no. The only thing driving up house prices is greed.

So why do we not have the same situation with cars? Cars
themselves can be bought for less now than ever in real
terms. This is due to the fact that there is far greater
supply so people buying cars can shop around for a good
deal. The laws of supply and demand will always work things
out, and in the housing market, the market is artificially
being held high by restricting supply.


If you were to take note of news broadcasts you would have noticed that
the
present government took action to force down the price of cars.

Another part of the reason is that houses last considerably longer than
cars
generally speaking. But just for the hell of it, see what price you would
have to pay for a Mk1 Cortina now, it will be significantly above it price
when new.



The government action to reduce the price of cars has not really made much
difference. Cars are still even cheaper in other EU countries. The main
reduction in price of cars between now and 20 years ago has been increased
competition in the market, increased efficiency in car production and fewer
trade restrictions.

Thankfully we have a far greater choice these days and don't have to buy Mk1
Cortinas. People who wish to buy "classic cars" are obviously free to do so.

"Oliver Keating" wrote in
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The richest people in this country are Estate agents and Lawyers, and
they get rich by screwing other people.

That's complete tosh -- just how many of the richest 500 people in the
country are estate agents or lawyers? I suspect not one of the top 500 is
an estate agent, and any lawyers in that group probably got that rich in
some other occupation.

And by what definition do either of these professions get rich by "screwing
other people" -- they provide a service that those people are apparently
prepared to pay for in a free market, which is more than is true of the
average denizen of a university (including Imperial College).

And before you start a socialist rant against me, I am not an estate agent
or lawyer, have done very little to enrich either profession, don't have a
second home and do have a master's degree from IC.

"JNugent" wrote the following
in:

wrote:

Greg Hennessy wrote:

[ ... ]

If you were to believe the CPRE, the SE is currently like
downtown Hong Hong during the rush hour, when the reality
is that approximately 15% of the land within 1 hours
commute of charring cross is built on.

A one hour commute by your favoured mode is only about ten miles
at most. Are you suggesting that there are open fields within
that area?

A one hour journey by car can take one (easily) up to 60 miles
(probably not a lot more, unless one lives adjacent to a motorway
interchange).

You'll have to travel a fair distance from Charing Cross before you can
do anything more than 30mph and even that is pretty ambitious as an
average speed, especially considering the fact that you'll face
congestion and a lot of traffic lights. I'd be absolutely amazed if you
could travel as much as 60 miles. Even half that seems optimistic.

So what are you talking about?

More to the point, what are you talking about?

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message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

"Handlebar catch and nipple."

The richest people in this country are Estate agents and Lawyers, and they
get rich by screwing other people.

Can you count prostitutes in that description?

Besides, houses are a form of investment, which is only accessible to the
very rich.

Not at all. Easy thing to do is rent a cheap flat to live in, buy a small
house that's run down, do all the work on it yourself, rent it out, buy a
slightly larger one... etc... etc...

"Tim S Kemp" wrote the following in:


The richest people in this country are Estate agents and Lawyers,
and they get rich by screwing other people.

Can you count prostitutes in that description?

They don't usually get rich, do they?

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message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

"Handlebar catch and nipple."