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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:02:52 +0100, "Depresion"
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Why isn't this plastered across all the US news channels the way there power cut
was across all of ours?


I got a CNN Breaking News Alert for it about 10 minutes after it was
reported on C4 news - but it wasn't "all over the place", just one
story.

I guess it's the 11/9 effect, TBH...

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:02:52 +0100, "Depresion"
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Why isn't this plastered across all the US news channels the way there

power cut
was across all of ours?


I got a CNN Breaking News Alert for it about 10 minutes after it was
reported on C4 news - but it wasn't "all over the place", just one
story.

I guess it's the 11/9 effect, TBH...

Neil

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And of course ALL will blame the railways as it being their fault. Just seen
it on the news and so many sad prats down there are NOT listening, it was a
national grid fault NOT the bloody transports.

When will commuters shut their gobs and be grateful.




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When will commuters shut their gobs and be grateful.


Ah, public service. Doesn't it just warm the cockles of your heart?

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"Joe Patrick" wrote in message ...
There has been a power cut, affecting the Tube and trains
BBC News Reports:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3189755.stm


Wow - I just missed that, having got the 18:57 from Victoria.

Not at all clear what happened. Various media reports are pointing to
a
massive failure either at Wimbledon or New Cross. Another report
mentions a failure in a 275kV ring around London. I'm not paying much
attention
to detail until someone with a clue make a statement.

Where I live (Sutton) was not affected (power comes from down south
perhaps?).
Where I work (S Kensington) wasn't affected either - or at least my
work place wasn't - I was dreading the prosect of finding serveral
dozen servers dead - but no, they're still there (phew).

I have a feeling that the de-regulation of the power indutry may have
something to do with this. There has been some fairly gross stupidity
evident in what used to be a very resilient power system since
de-regulation. If doubt I usually blame the Tories ill conceived
privatisation plans for most things -
and New Labour for not reversing them (but that's just me).

Then again, maybe it was a genuine fault or terrorist action - guess
we'll
find out soon enough.

At least, by all accounts, there was some fairly rapid evacuation of
parts of the tube this time, instead of leaving the poor sods to stew
in the tunnels.

Cheers

Timbo
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At least, by all accounts, there was some fairly rapid evacuation of
parts of the tube this time, instead of leaving the poor sods to stew
in the tunnels.

So quick that it appears that when power was available again (the grid
outage lasted about 40 minutes) passengers were being evacuated from trains
stranded in tunnels, so traction power could not be restored.

As was to be expected, though, a collapse of the service for a reason
outside the control of the railways was accompanied by a collapse of
information. The Connex website even managed to proclaim 'no major
problems'.

Peter




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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:27:11 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Masson"
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As was to be expected, though, a collapse of the service for a reason
outside the control of the railways was accompanied by a collapse of
information. The Connex website even managed to proclaim 'no major
problems'.


TfL's site earlier helpfully said that there was no travel information
because of the power cut. If they were able to upload a specific
message to the site, why wasn't anything useful posted? Shouldn't
they have someone on call to do things like this? Now they are
telling us to ask at a local station as most services are "affected".
A list of lines that have service, and a plea not to travel at all
would be more useful. I'm sure everyone on the ground is doing their
bit, but where's the coordination?

And as for the other train companies... Connex are still "running
well", though their train running pages are quite helpful. SWT's news
about the delays is two clicks away from the home page and should IMHO
be much more prominent. c2c useless. SouthCentral useless.
Silverlink - gave up. Of the TOC sites I looked at, only WAGN have
news about the power cut on their first page. National Rail has a
very nice obvious link to the current disruptions page, however once
you get to the page, the information about tonight's delays has gone!

Even though most people affected won't be in front of a web browser,
it depresses me how little use was made of the medium by the
operators.

Richard.
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Depresion wrote:

Why isn't this plastered across all the US news channels the way there power cut
was across all of ours?



Because their power cut was funny!

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Joe Patrick wrote:
There has been a power cut, affecting the Tube and trains
BBC News Reports:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3189755.stm



I struggled to get back home tonight and I live in North London.

I can sort of understand why the tube to my part of the world was
totally buggered, but any ideas why a power cut in South London should
wipe out virtually all the local trains from Kings Cross (and Euston)as
well?

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Great, all the cross-posted trolls are back X-(


I think news about a power cut affecting London Transport, National Rail
is pretty much suited to the three groups it was cross posted to.
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