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Old January 3rd 10, 11:02 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Oyster Extension Permits (OEPs)

On 3 Jan, 11:20, Daniel wrote:
On 3 Jan, 11:04, MIG wrote:



On 3 Jan, 10:59, JS wrote:


On 3 Jan, 10:41, MIG wrote:


On 3 Jan, 03:17, Mudchute wrote:


I have a Zone 1 and 2 Travelcard on my Oyster and wanted to travel
from Charing Cross to Catford Bridge this Saturday evening and was
hoping to be able to put an Oyster Extension Permit on at one of the
ticket machines at Charing Cross but this option wasn't available.. I
did manage to top up my PAYG balance though. I decided then to go to
the ticket office and (surprise, surprise) nobody in the ticket office
knew what an Oyster Extension Permit was. I told them my situation and
one of them said I could just touch in and touch out at the other end
while someone else told me it would be cheaper if I bought a paper
ticket extension. The TfL website still mentions OEPs so it amazes me
that at a big mainline station like Charing Cross the staff haven't
been trained properly for the launch. Has anyone had similar issues on
other routes?


According to the documents posted in another thread, you only need an
OEP if your journey starts on LU/DLR. *You'd be starting on NR.


Given that nothing should be deducted when you start within zones, I
don't know how this all ties up with being deducted a higher amount on
entry, given that you won't need to be deducted when on a travelcard.


Start mode is irrelevant - the original poster correctly attempted to
load an OEP at Charing Cross. *It looks like we have a problem....


In another thread, someone posted the result of an FOI request, which
included a TfL staff briefing, which included this statement.


"An Oyster Extension Permit is only needed when a journey is started
within the zones covered by a Travelcard at a LU/London Overground or
DLR station and involves travel by National Rail beyond its validity."


Seehttp://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/23222/response/62007/attach/4/P....


It seems bonkers to me too, but has it ever been suggested that NR
stations can issue OEPs?


Could there also be some cross-london journeys where travelcard
holders without the central zones on their tickets could require two
(or more) OEPs (due to the original OEP being cancelled by a gateline
en-route)? I suspect that ticket-holders with this type of ticket
could see some non-optimal charges as well.

The more I read about all this, the more confused I get!

DP


If you mean where passengers use an OSI out of zone(s) - no they will
not need to load another OEP.
When they touch out - OEP is removed and the payg balance resolved for
the correct extension fare
When they touch back in, out of zone, they will be charged the Mixed
Journey Entry / Exit charge - no OEP is required.
 
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