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The veritable maze that is the London Underground owes its existence,
at least in part, to a brilliant railway-engineer named James Henry
Greathead, born in Grahamstown, South Africa, on 6 August 1844.

http://london.thesouthafrican.com/li...can-connection

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The veritable maze that is the London Underground owes its existence,
at least in part, to a brilliant railway-engineer named James Henry
Greathead, born in Grahamstown, South Africa, on 6 August 1844.

http://london.thesouthafrican.com/li...can-connection


Didn't Brunel's sheild predate Gateshead?

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On 13 Jan., 09:57, Graeme wrote:


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Didn't Brunel's sheild predate Gateshead?



Yes, but Gateshead machine permitted tunneling to be carried out at
far lower cost. This was due to the smaller bore diameter, and also
the construction of the tunnel itself. I believe Gateshead used pre-
fabricated tunnel segments rather than brickwork. These innovations
made tunneling affordable. Rememeber that the company that built
Brunel's Thames tunnel went into bankrupcy on account of the
escalation of construction costs, and that the tunnel wasn't completed
until many years later..
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:35:43 -0800 (PST), amogles
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On 13 Jan., 09:57, Graeme wrote:


http://london.thesouthafrican.com/li...erground-and-i...


Didn't Brunel's sheild predate Gateshead?



Yes, but Gateshead machine permitted tunneling to be carried out at
far lower cost. This was due to the smaller bore diameter, and also
the construction of the tunnel itself. I believe Gateshead used pre-
fabricated tunnel segments rather than brickwork. These innovations
made tunneling affordable. Rememeber that the company that built
Brunel's Thames tunnel went into bankrupcy on account of the
escalation of construction costs, and that the tunnel wasn't completed
until many years later..



A good summary, except the name is Greathead, not Gateshead.

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On Jan 13, 1:56�am, CJB wrote:
SNIP

Saw the header and thought someone had rediscovered the secret Boer
War tunnel from London to Ladysmith to ferry troops in.

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On Jan 13, 1:56=EF=BF=BDam, CJB wrote:
SNIP

Saw the header and thought someone had rediscovered the secret Boer
War tunnel from London to Ladysmith to ferry troops in.


As this is a railway group, Mafeking surely.

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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, Graeme wrote:

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On Jan 13, 1:56=EF=BF=BDam, CJB wrote:
SNIP

Saw the header and thought someone had rediscovered the secret Boer
War tunnel from London to Ladysmith to ferry troops in.


As this is a railway group, Mafeking surely.


No, no, it runs to that riverport just up the coast from Port Elizabeth -
that's why it's called the East London Line.

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On 13 Jan, 01:56, CJB wrote:
The veritable maze that is the London Underground owes its existence,
at least in *part, to a brilliant railway-engineer named James Henry
Greathead, born in Grahamstown, South Africa, on 6 August 1844.

http://london.thesouthafrican.com/li...erground-and-i...


There is a statue of him on Lombard Street, near Bank.
I just looked at that article you linked to (it didn't work at first)
and I see with distaste that whoever wrote it is using the distasteful
pseudonym ROSS DIX-PEEK.

That is not funny or clever!
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On 13 Jan, 01:56, CJB wrote:
The veritable maze that is the London Underground owes its existence,
at least in part, to a brilliant railway-engineer named James Henry
Greathead, born in Grahamstown, South Africa, on 6 August 1844.

http://london.thesouthafrican.com/li...erground-and-i...


There is a statue of him on Lombard Street, near Bank.


It's actually in Cornhill. It doubles as a fanshaft, hence the grille around
the top of the plinth.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&... 61,,1,-14.02

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On 13 Jan, 01:56, CJB wrote:
The veritable maze that is the London Underground owes its existence,
at least in *part, to a brilliant railway-engineer named James Henry
Greathead, born in Grahamstown, South Africa, on 6 August 1844.

http://london.thesouthafrican.com/li...erground-and-i...


There is a statue of him on Lombard Street, near Bank.
I just looked at that article you linked to (it didn't work at first)
and I see with distaste that whoever wrote it is using the distasteful
pseudonym ROSS DIX-PEEK.

That is not funny or clever!


Or meaningful?

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