"Ernesto" wrote

I traveled on the WLL later on in the day, the line diagrams on the 378 I
rode on made no mention of the ELL at all, not even as "under
construction".

There are two separate fleets, one (DC only) for the ELL, and another (dual
voltage) for the NLL/WLL/Euston-Watford DC. It makes sense only to include
line diagrams for the lines the trains will run on. Similarly D stock don't
include the Circle/H&C on their line diagrams, and C stock include
Wimbledon - Edgware Road, but not teh rest of the District.

Peter

On 28 Apr, 07:32, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Ernesto" wrote

I traveled on the WLL later on in the day, the line diagrams on the 378 I
rode on made no mention of the ELL at all, not even as "under
construction".

There are two separate fleets, one (DC only) for the ELL, and another (dual
voltage) for the NLL/WLL/Euston-Watford DC. It makes sense only to include
line diagrams for the lines the trains will run on. Similarly D stock don't
include the Circle/H&C on their line diagrams, and C stock include
Wimbledon - Edgware Road, but not teh rest of the District.

Peter

But it's only in the last few years that the C stock has stopped
showing Olympia. Always a strange anomaly till then.

On 28/04/2010 07:59, MIG wrote:
On 28 Apr, 07:32, "Peter wrote:

It makes sense only to include
line diagrams for the lines the trains will run on. Similarly D stock don't
include the Circle/H&C on their line diagrams, and C stock include
Wimbledon - Edgware Road, but not teh rest of the District.

Peter

But it's only in the last few years that the C stock has stopped
showing Olympia. Always a strange anomaly till then

Hardly, because half of the morning rush hour C-stocks to and from
Edgware Road used to run to and from Olympia. The D-Stock shuttle would
only start when the morning rush hour was over.

On Apr 28, 7:32*am, "Peter Masson" wrote:
There are two separate fleets, one (DC only) for the ELL, and another (dual
voltage) for the NLL/WLL/Euston-Watford DC. It makes sense only to include
line diagrams for the lines the trains will run on. Similarly D stock don't
include the Circle/H&C on their line diagrams, and C stock include
Wimbledon - Edgware Road, but not teh rest of the District.

Which may or may not make sense as a principle, but evidently isn't
the principle being followed
for these London Overground maps, 'cos otherwise they wouldn't show
the Goblin (which they do).

I suggest the reason the WLL trains observed hadn't got maps that show
the ELL isn't that they have decided not to, it is that they haven't
got round to putting them on yet. Wait a month, then see...

--
Abi

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:51:47 -0700 (PDT), Abigail Brady
wrote:

I suggest the reason the WLL trains observed hadn't got maps that show
the ELL isn't that they have decided not to, it is that they haven't
got round to putting them on yet. Wait a month, then see...

Once the extension to Highbury and Islington is completed the two
lines will overlap, with a common stop at Canonbury, so they will need
something by then won't they?

On Apr 28, 10:55*am, Ivor The Engine
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:51:47 -0700 (PDT), Abigail Brady
wrote:
I suggest the reason the WLL trains observed hadn't got maps that show
the ELL isn't that they have decided not to, it is that they haven't
got round to putting them on yet. *Wait a month, then see...

Once the extension to Highbury and Islington is completed the two
lines will overlap, with a common stop at Canonbury, so they will need
something by then won't they? *

The line through to H&I won't be open until some time next year.

On 28/04/2010 10:55, Ivor The Engine wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:51:47 -0700 (PDT), Abigail Brady
wrote:

I suggest the reason the WLL trains observed hadn't got maps that show
the ELL isn't that they have decided not to, it is that they haven't
got round to putting them on yet. Wait a month, then see...

Once the extension to Highbury and Islington is completed the two
lines will overlap, with a common stop at Canonbury, so they will need
something by then won't they?

Are there actually plans for WLL trains to go that far east?

wrote in message
...
On 28/04/2010 10:55, Ivor The Engine wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:51:47 -0700 (PDT), Abigail Brady
wrote:

I suggest the reason the WLL trains observed hadn't got maps that show
the ELL isn't that they have decided not to, it is that they haven't
got round to putting them on yet. Wait a month, then see...

Once the extension to Highbury and Islington is completed the two
lines will overlap, with a common stop at Canonbury, so they will need
something by then won't they?

Are there actually plans for WLL trains to go that far east?

When the NLL reopens there will be quite a number of through trains from
Clapham Junction to Stratford via the WLL and NLL.

Peter

wrote:

Are there actually plans for WLL trains to go that far east?

Yes, definitely - the 'all day' service pattern will have 2 tph from Clapham
Jn to Stratford, alternating with 2 tph Clapham Jn to Willesden Jn.
So 4 tph on the WLL.

(Is it in 2011 maybe?)

The normal current timetable already includes a few such extended services
in each peak, (ignoring the current engineering closures).

Paul S

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:01:26 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote:


Are there actually plans for WLL trains to go that far east?

No. The NLL and ELL overlap between Canonbury and Highbury.

Oops. Never was good at geography! Or decrypting TLAs.