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The coalition of fools could make things worse.

I made no remark about how we got there. Only trhat those now in
control might mess it up.


I suppose it is possible, whilst Nick is sitting in the corner of a
number ten office bored out of his mind because he’s been given
nothing to do and David is unable to keep an eye on him because he’s
up to his eyeballs in red boxes, that Nick’s attention could be drawn
to the big red button marked TRIDENT FIRE and curiosity as to what it
does may take over.

Otherwise, apart from that, I’m not sure what’s been left to f**k up.

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On 05/13/10 21:36, D7666 wrote:

I made no remark about how we got there. Only trhat those now in
control might mess it up.


As opposed to those who were in control, who did?
So what's new?


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In message , at 10:30:29 on Fri, 14 May
2010, Tim Fenton remarked:

What has been kept "highly secret"? One example will do.


The entire (sorry about the tautology) input to the Comprehensive
Spending Review that they postponed until after the election.
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Assuming the coalition of fools does not mess up the recovery.


What by not applying Labour's keep on spending bull****?

Labour's keep on spending bull**** was just for the election.

Behind the scenes, they were already planning exactly the same sort of
cuts and more that the Tories had been on about.

In fifty days time, we will have another budget, between then and now
the coalition get to see the previous government’s books that they’ve
been keeping highly secret.

Somehow, I don’t think it’s going to be good news.

The economy has been way beyond the comfort zone of ideological
argument for some time now.

It’s the mathematics that are in control now and if responding to them
means a double dip recession then tough – there’s simply no other
option.

Though it’s arguable that Labour would have almost certainly failed to
respond to the mathematics. Not because of ideology, but because
traditionally they have always been incapable of facing up to any
harsh financial reality without imploding.

With that lot, eventually, it would have taken the IMF to do it for
us, quite possibly with Gordon Brown running them (into oblivion) by
then.


Greece, anyone .... Spain, anyone ???

DW down under

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With that lot, eventually, it would have taken the IMF to do it for
us, quite possibly with Gordon Brown running them (into oblivion) by
then.


Greece, anyone .... Spain, anyone ???


Both countries being run by socialist governments. Which tells you all you
need to know really.

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What has been kept "highly secret"? One example will do.


The entire (sorry about the tautology) input to the Comprehensive
Spending Review that they postponed until after the election.


This was the burying of bad news I was alluding to.

Note that the new transport secretary has qualified all of his
statements so far by matters financial.

Having said that, I confidently expect the new administration to do
far more than the previous administration when it comes to transport,
despite the financial difficulties, because, as the media has been
quick to point out this week, they are not all a bunch of big girl’s
blouses.

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New Labour, in the guise of Dawn Primarolo (AKA The Dim Prawn),
managed to self off billions of high value properties of the Inland
Revenue and Customs and Excise in a PFI deal to a company based in a
tax haven.

Thus missing out completely on the significant sums of stamp duty from
the sale plus all tax revenues, till year dot, on the rental income.

Even worse, her department actually found this out at the time of
naming the preferred bidder but because they had not specified only UK
tax paying companies could bid, in the first place, under European Law
they could not then pull out of the deal.

It is widely rumoured that a student on a work experience placement in
the Paymaster General’s office was the first to highlight this issue.

Dawn’s other achievements included overseeing the introduction of the
tax credit system, she was later accused of completely losing control
of her brief by a select committee leaving many families worse off.

She was also responsible for introducing the IR35 tax arrangements,
much hated by IT contractors although very few have ever ended up
paying the new tax.

It is estimated that the IR35 tax arrangements are currently costing
five times more to administer than they actually raise in tax
revenues.

Dawn has a BA degree in Social Science.
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On Fri, 14 May 2010 07:36:20 -0700 (PDT), allantracy
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Dawn has a BA degree in Social Science.



And apparently a bit of a goer. Allegedly.

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On 14/05/2010 10:30, Tim Fenton wrote:

"allantracy" wrote in message
...

In fifty days time, we will have another budget, between then and now
the coalition get to see the previous government’s books that they’ve
been keeping highly secret.


What has been kept "highly secret"? One example will do.


How would we know, if it's secret?



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On 13/05/2010 22:16, allantracy wrote:

The coalition of fools could make things worse.

I made no remark about how we got there. Only trhat those now in
control might mess it up.


I suppose it is possible, whilst Nick is sitting in the corner of a
number ten office bored out of his mind because he’s been given
nothing to do and David is unable to keep an eye on him because he’s
up to his eyeballs in red boxes, that Nick’s attention could be drawn
to the big red button marked TRIDENT FIRE and curiosity as to what it
does may take over.


There was something on the radio a while back, and IIRC it doesn't work
like that. They were making the point that the PM can't order an attack,
only ask for one, and it is up to the military to actually do it (going
right to the top if they think the PM has lost his marbles). The actual
trigger is onboard the boat.

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