Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

Paul S

On May 20, 5:43*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

The empty white space between New Cross Gate and London Bridge does
look a bit odd when you know what's there. Ditto the space between
Waterloo, Vauxhall and Clapham Junction (and indeed CJ to Wimbledon
and Richmond), plus the lack of a line from Victoria to CJ too. And
then there's the lack of a line between CJ and Balham, and then once
you're into this territory you find yourself wanting to start drawing
lines all over the map...!

Anyhow I bet the inclusion of these SE London stations on the Tube map
will also serve to increase awareness and patronage on the existing
Southern service to and from London Bridge.

On May 20, 9:43*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

Thank you for posting Paul. It is good to se TfL's increased presence
in South London. This is long overdue, and very welcome.

On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:43:12 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

I still don't get the 'interchange' link between Dalston Junction and
Dalston Kingsland. Is there a practical link or do you have to exit
on to Dalston Lane or Kingsland Road respectively then cross two busy
roads to get to the other station?

On 20 May, 17:43, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

Paul S

I notice that it continues the recent tendency not to indicate limited
services and connections with dotted lines (or the weird double route
through Earls Court that used to be shown).

But if limited services are shown as full services, it's about time
that a connection was shown between West India and the Beckton line on
the DLR.

Not sure how long it's been that way, but I don't think it's
particularly helpful to have the dagger symbol against stations all
over the map, and then for the key to appear to say nothing but "Check
before you travel".

It took me a while to work out that the daggered sentence in the key
is actually the heading for all the information below it, rather than
an independent statement. Why check before you travel when all the
information is given immediately below, or does it just mean "check
this here information before you travel" as opposed to the usual
requirement to phone up, check bulletins etc?

On May 20, 6:17*pm, Ivor The Engine
wrote:

On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:43:12 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

I still don't get the 'interchange' link between Dalston Junction and
Dalston Kingsland. * Is there a practical link or do you have to exit
on to Dalston Lane or Kingsland Road respectively then cross two busy
roads to get to the other station?

The practical link is the pavement.

You actually only need to cross the main road(s) *once* - if you come
out of Dalston Jn onto Dalston Lane (which the only entrance that's
open at the moment), turn left and go to the south-east corner of the
junction there's a diagonal crossing across Kingsland High Road to the
north-west corner - voila, you're on the right side of the road for
Dalston Kingsland station (with a couple of side roads to cross).

You can see this crossing in the middle of this Bing Maps bird's eye
view - it's sandwiched between the two yellow cross-hatched box
junctions:
http://www.bing.com/maps/?cp=skqxp7g...12454377&sty=o

Of course anyone going to Dalston on the first week of the full ELL
service should be aware that the NLL isn't running from Dalston
Kinsgland until the beginning of June (replacement buses run instead).
Plus the LO network is looking particularly patchy this Sunday - see
the maps that Ian of IanVisits has put together here...
http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2010...ink-on-sunday/

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[1] Unless the new bus station bit/ bus loop to the south has opened
in the past few days?

Ivor The Engine wrote:
On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:43:12 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

I still don't get the 'interchange' link between Dalston Junction and
Dalston Kingsland. Is there a practical link or do you have to exit
on to Dalston Lane or Kingsland Road respectively then cross two busy
roads to get to the other station?

It's only a temporary use of the interchange symbol, surely, because once
the next extension opens it will be a better bet to carry on to Canonbury
and return if heading to/from the east. I'd be surprised if the elongated
interchange isn't ditched next year some time...

Paul S

"MIG" wrote

It took me a while to work out that the daggered sentence in the key
is actually the heading for all the information below it, rather than
an independent statement. Why check before you travel when all the
information is given immediately below, or does it just mean "check
this here information before you travel" as opposed to the usual
requirement to phone up, check bulletins etc?

Possibility of confusion between years and times on the 24 hour cock:
Blackfriars Underground station closed until 2011
Cannon Street open until 2100

Peter

On 20 May, 17:43, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

Paul S

Pssst,,,,where's Tramlink....?

On 21/05/2010 00:36, Dr. Sunil wrote:
On 20 May, 17:43, "Paul wrote:
Mods applied for Sunday's ELL opening

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

Pssst,,,,where's Tramlink....?

That's a *very* good point! There's not much difference between it and
the DLR. Whereas it might have looked odd hanging disembodied off
Wimbledon in the past, it would look okay now that it links to Croydon too.