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On Tue, 25 May 2010 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote: On May 25, 11:50*am, Ivor The Engine wrote: On Tue, 25 May 2010 03:06:25 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T wrote: On May 25, 10:38*am, CJB wrote: Is Haggerston really to the north of Dalston? Or have they made a mistake? I think signs at other nearby stations may be the same. http://www.flickr.com/photos/50503868@N03/4637990759/ The sign doesn't actually claim any direction is north (it's you who's drawn on the "N") - the sign is a diagramattic representation of the ELL It's in the wrong direction anyway, pointing west, not north! Well, if Haggerston was 'pointing south' then the arrow could be said to be pointing east - the point of course is that the sign is just a diagrammatic representation of the routes from that station, rather than a geographically accurate representation. True but such signs do IME tend to show lines in their correct relative locations if not accurately by scale and direction (which would be difficult with the NLL as it runs roughly in a curve). This one seems a bit like showing the Chesham branch below the Metropolitan main line on an Underground map; do any down/northbound station line diagrams put the Chesham branch on the LHS ? The sign shows that one can travel north from Haggerston and change at Dalston onto the NLL. I'm pleased, for clarity, to see that it has a small 'walk' symbol between the Dalston stations. What happens in May - completely new signage, or a 'sticky label' showing links at Canonbury and H&L? * I know they need to be accurate but this is a pretty short term arrangement. I think the current signs actually are an 'all over' sticky label arrangements (i.e. ones that cover the entire sign) - underneath is the permanent signage which shows both the extensions to H&I and also to Claphan Jn via Peckham. |
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On 26 May, 04:38, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Tue, 25 May 2010 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T wrote: On May 25, 11:50*am, Ivor The Engine wrote: On Tue, 25 May 2010 03:06:25 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T wrote: On May 25, 10:38*am, CJB wrote: Is Haggerston really to the north of Dalston? Or have they made a mistake? I think signs at other nearby stations may be the same. http://www.flickr.com/photos/50503868@N03/4637990759/ The sign doesn't actually claim any direction is north (it's you who's drawn on the "N") - the sign is a diagramattic representation of the ELL It's in the wrong direction anyway, pointing west, not north! Well, if Haggerston was 'pointing south' then the arrow could be said to be pointing east - the point of course is that the sign is just a diagrammatic representation of the routes from that station, rather than a geographically accurate representation. True but such signs do IME tend to show lines in their correct relative locations if not accurately by scale and direction (which would be difficult with the NLL as it runs roughly in a curve). This one seems a bit like showing the Chesham branch below the Metropolitan main line on an Underground map; do any down/northbound station line diagrams put the Chesham branch on the LHS ? The sign shows that one can travel north from Haggerston and change at Dalston onto the NLL. I'm pleased, for clarity, to see that it has a small 'walk' symbol between the Dalston stations. What happens in May - completely new signage, or a 'sticky label' showing links at Canonbury and H&L? * I know they need to be accurate but this is a pretty short term arrangement. I think the current signs actually are an 'all over' sticky label arrangements (i.e. ones that cover the entire sign) - underneath is the permanent signage which shows both the extensions to H&I and also to Claphan Jn via Peckham. After the non-branching lines like Victoria and Bakerloo tried mirror image type diagrams in the trains, ie with the order of stations matching the direction of the train, it was tried on the District as well. It didn't last long. I certainly found it very confusing to suggest that you'd turn right to get to Wimbledon, particularly if one knew that Hammersmith was west. Matching the actual direction of the train didn't really help much at all. |
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