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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:02:04 +0100, Neil Williams
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:12:57 +0100, Bruce
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I suppose the IRA bombing campaign against London targets would have
done a lot to change traffic arrangements such as that at Paddington.
Sadly, the Islamist threat that replaced it makes it all the more
important to keep road vehicle flows out of stations. :-(


Yet there are road vehicle flows in a few stations still - Edinburgh
Waverley for one.



Ssshhh! Don't tell anyone!

Although it is difficult to see how Waverley could be accessed by cars
and taxis in any other way, given the confines of the site.

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:29:49 +0100, Bruce
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Although it is difficult to see how Waverley could be accessed by cars
and taxis in any other way, given the confines of the site.


I suppose the only other option would be on the street, such as the
bridges.

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:06:49 +0100, Neil Williams
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:29:49 +0100, Bruce
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Although it is difficult to see how Waverley could be accessed by cars
and taxis in any other way, given the confines of the site.


I suppose the only other option would be on the street, such as the
bridges.



It's difficult to see how people arriving/departing by car/taxi could
be adequately served by pick up/set down on the bridges. There is
also the issue of where long term car parking could be provided.

Obviously none of these changes would be impossible, but they would
greatly reduce the utility of the station. Whether that would be
worth the reduction in security risk is difficult to evaluate.

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In message , at 18:06:53 on
Sun, 11 Jul 2010, Bruce remarked:
Obviously none of these changes would be impossible, but they would
greatly reduce the utility of the station. Whether that would be
worth the reduction in security risk is difficult to evaluate.


How likely is someone to drive a car-bomb into the station inside
something that looks like a taxi?
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:05:44 +0100, Roland Perry
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How likely is someone to drive a car-bomb into the station inside
something that looks like a taxi?


I would say it is an acceptable risk, just as, for instance, having
cycle racks inside stations is an acceptable risk.

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:26:02 +0100, Neil Williams
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:05:44 +0100, Roland Perry
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How likely is someone to drive a car-bomb into the station inside
something that looks like a taxi?


I would say it is an acceptable risk, just as, for instance, having
cycle racks inside stations is an acceptable risk.



Roland Perry is so touchingly naive. Does he really think that the
driver of a car bomb would obey the "Taxis Only" sign?

I sometimes wonder what planet Roland Perry is on. The conclusion is
never "Earth".

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In message , at 10:29:47 on
Mon, 12 Jul 2010, Bruce remarked:
Roland Perry is so touchingly naive. Does he really think that the
driver of a car bomb would obey the "Taxis Only" sign?

I sometimes wonder what planet Roland Perry is on. The conclusion is
never "Earth".


Oh dear, the Polson troll is in good form today.

I agree completely that the concept of a "law abiding terrorist" is
rather odd - but many precautions appear to assume that this is the
case.

However, I used the term "something that looks like a taxi", which means
that such a vehicle would not arouse any suspicion until it actually
exploded. Someone driving a "not-taxi" could possibly have been stopped
before they reached that part of the station where they could do most
damage.
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On Jul 11, 11:26*pm, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:05:44 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

How likely is someone to drive a car-bomb into the station inside
something that looks like a taxi?


I would say it is an acceptable risk, just as, for instance, having
cycle racks inside stations is an acceptable risk.


Cycle racks at major stations are all located away from the main
concourse, which lessens the risk.
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