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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
In message , at 20:35:44 on
Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Neil Williams remarked: It avoids people having to publish two addresses - one for postal purposes and a second so that you can find where they are. Don't know about you, but these days I find out where someone is by typing their postcode into Google Maps or my sat-nav. Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? -- Roland Perry |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 21:08:39 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? I don't know when I suggested that. All I suggested was that the counties are irrelevant. Google Maps etc don't locate a postcode by what county it is in. They have a database mapping postcodes to longitude/latitude. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK To reply put my first name before the at. |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
In message , at 21:17:03 on
Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Neil Williams remarked: Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? I don't know when I suggested that. You suggested a continental model last night. -- Roland Perry |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 21:26:17 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 21:17:03 on Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Neil Williams remarked: Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? I don't know when I suggested that. You suggested a continental model last night. I didn't. I suggested that the only data required to form an address would be as per the Continental system, i.e.:- 10 Anystreet Anytown AB1 2CD ....in which the street and town act as effectively checksums and to help the postman (actually only "10 AB1 2CD" is theoretically enough, but then there is no "checksum"). There is no need for district of the town nor for county, as the postcode will provide that information, and duplicate street names in a given town aren't that common. I tend to use that sort of format anyway, and haven't found it a problem. I did not at any point suggest that our postcode system should be reduced in scope to one of lower resolution such as that found in other countries. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK To reply put my first name before the at. |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
... In message , at 20:35:44 on Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Neil Williams remarked: It avoids people having to publish two addresses - one for postal purposes and a second so that you can find where they are. Don't know about you, but these days I find out where someone is by typing their postcode into Google Maps or my sat-nav. Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? -- Roland Perry It certainly works with an address where I used to live in New York - you can try it out for yourself because I've given the address below. The Royal Mail seem to be trying to move this way, although they're not doing a very good job of educating the Great British Public. I would be strongly in favour of a system that is more highly mechanised (and much cheaper) such as the USA has. All US addresses follow the format Street address City, StateZip The Street address contains the building name or number, the street name and an optional apartment/room number, in that order. So my address was 377 Rector Place Apt #5A NEW YORK, NY10280-1534 If you don't follow the above format your mail probably won't be delivered at all or, at the very best, takes a long time to reach its destination. The first five digits of the zip code identify the local mail delivery office, the next four digits (which are optional) identify a group of around 15 delivery points. Google maps doesn't handle the extended zip code, but it gets near enough. -- DAS |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
In message , at 00:30:21 on Tue, 3 Aug
2010, David A Stocks remarked: 377 Rector Place Apt #5A NEW YORK, NY10280-1534 If you don't follow the above format your mail probably won't be delivered at all or, at the very best, takes a long time to reach its destination. The first five digits of the zip code identify the local mail delivery office, the next four digits (which are optional) identify a group of around 15 delivery points. Google maps doesn't handle the extended zip code, but it gets near enough. I lived in Atlanta for a year, and the five-digit part of the postcode was all that anyone used. Unfortunately for geo-location purposes it covered a rather large area. Indeed, despite being in the suburbs (and not even the outer suburbs) the nearest Post Office (which was also the district sorting and delivery office) was a 20 minute drive away! -- Roland Perry |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 09:08:39PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 20:35:44 on Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Neil Williams remarked: Don't know about you, but these days I find out where someone is by typing their postcode into Google Maps or my sat-nav. Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? Of course it would, given that it works in the rest of Europe. Sure, you don't type in the postcode, but Tomtom on my phone knows *exactly* where to find most of my continental friends. eg ... hit "Navigate to", "Address", select Germany from the list of countries, type five letters to find the town, type three letters to find the street, it then asks me for the house number and directs me right to their front door. This is actually quicker than, in the UK, typing in the entire postcode (with irritating switches between letters and numbers) and the house number. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "internet beard fetish club" Deck of Cards: $1.29. "101 Solitaire Variations" book: $6.59. Cheap replacement for the one thing Windows is good at: priceless -- Shane Lazarus |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
In message , at 12:55:02
on Tue, 3 Aug 2010, David Cantrell remarked: Don't know about you, but these days I find out where someone is by typing their postcode into Google Maps or my sat-nav. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------- ^^^^^^^^^^ Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? Of course it would, given that it works in the rest of Europe. Sure, you don't type in the postcode, but Tomtom on my phone knows *exactly* where to find most of my continental friends. eg ... hit "Navigate to", "Address", select Germany from the list of countries, type five letters to find the town, Have they avoided having (the equivalent of) half a dozen towns called "Newport", or does it show some (equivalent of) County information to help sort out one from the other? type three letters to find the street, it then asks me for the house number and directs me right to their front door. You seem to be *not* typing the German postcode into your TomTom. Typing in the street address is all very well, but this is a discussion about postcodes. This is actually quicker than, in the UK, typing in the entire postcode (with irritating switches between letters and numbers) and the house number. My satnav doesn't require me to change between letters and numbers in order to enter a UK postcode. But nor do I have my satnav with me at all times, so I cannot rely upon it (in the absence of county information in someone's address that I am trying to locate). -- Roland Perry |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode AddressFile
On 03/08/2010 13:32, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:55:02 on Tue, 3 Aug 2010, David Cantrell remarked: Don't know about you, but these days I find out where someone is by typing their postcode into Google Maps or my sat-nav. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------- ^^^^^^^^^^ Ad you think that would still work if we had a two-tier (continental style) address model in the UK? Of course it would, given that it works in the rest of Europe. Sure, you don't type in the postcode, but Tomtom on my phone knows *exactly* where to find most of my continental friends. eg ... hit "Navigate to", "Address", select Germany from the list of countries, type five letters to find the town, Have they avoided having (the equivalent of) half a dozen towns called "Newport", or does it show some (equivalent of) County information to help sort out one from the other? There is /Main and /Oder for Frankfurt, and various X im Y names. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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[OT] Postal counties to be dropped from the Postcode Address File
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 01:32:42PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:55:02 on Tue, 3 Aug 2010, David Cantrell remarked: hit "Navigate to", "Address", select Germany from the list of countries, type five letters to find the town, Have they avoided having (the equivalent of) half a dozen towns called "Newport", or does it show some (equivalent of) County information to help sort out one from the other? I assume so. I can't think of any such placenames in Germany off the top of my head, but if I try to use the same method to find a destination in the UK, typing four characters (n, e, w, p) gets me a list of ten Newports, plus Newport Pagnell, Newport-on-Tay, and Newport Park and it's a trivial matter to mash my finger down on the right one. The list entries are presented thus: Newport (Gwent) Newport (Dyfed) Newport (Barnstaple) etc the sort order appears to not be very sensible, but it's not a very big list so I guess that's OK. type three letters to find the street, it then asks me for the house number and directs me right to their front door. You seem to be *not* typing the German postcode into your TomTom. Yeah, what I said at the beginning of my message was a bit of a give-away about that. My point was that navigational devices work there, to a high degree of precision, even in the absence of highly geographically precise postcodes. Perhaps you misunderstood my intention. Or perhaps I misunderstood yours. -- header FROM_DAVID_CANTRELL From =~ /david.cantrell/i describe FROM_DAVID_CANTRELL Message is from David Cantrell score FROM_DAVID_CANTRELL 15.72 # This figure from experimentation |
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