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In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. I'm
considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? |
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Sun, 1 Aug 2010, Franklin remarked: In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. I'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? By train it's around 50 minutes, although there may be special arrangements/disruptions during the actual Games themselves. -- Roland Perry |
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Franklin wrote on 01 August
2010 16:00:07 ... In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. I'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? What do you mean by "the civic hall for the Wimbledon area"? Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton, whose main headquarters is at the Civic Centre, London Road, Morden, SM4 5DX, near Morden Underground station (Northern Line) and about 2 miles from Wimbledon. Until 1965, Wimbledon was a borough with a town hall (built 1931) at the corner of Queens Road and Wimbledon Bridge, near Wimbledon station. It is no longer a council building; Google Street View shows a Tesco Metro supermarket in the building. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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![]() "Richard J." wrote in message news:zFk5o.39249$hz1.21751@hurricane... Franklin wrote on 01 August 2010 16:00:07 ... In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. I'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? What do you mean by "the civic hall for the Wimbledon area"? Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton, whose main headquarters is at the Civic Centre, London Road, Morden, SM4 5DX, near Morden Underground station (Northern Line) and about 2 miles from Wimbledon. Until 1965, Wimbledon was a borough with a town hall (built 1931) at the corner of Queens Road and Wimbledon Bridge, near Wimbledon station. It is no longer a council building; Google Street View shows a Tesco Metro supermarket in the building. I think that the old Wimbledon Town Hall was the Merton Council main offices for a couple of decades after 1965. It is now the frontage to the Centre Court shopping centre, accessible directly from the railway station, opened some around 1988-90. The new council offices in Morden used to be a supermarket (various names ending as a Safeway) with an office block (Crown House) above it until at least 1980. Can't remember when that all changed and the Safeway moved into new premises built on the old Co-op department store, (which was what I can only describe as the most sparsely occupied store this side of the Urals). tim |
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tim.... wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message news:zFk5o.39249$hz1.21751@hurricane... Franklin wrote on 01 August 2010 16:00:07 ... In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. I'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? What do you mean by "the civic hall for the Wimbledon area"? Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton, whose main headquarters is at the Civic Centre, London Road, Morden, SM4 5DX, near Morden Underground station (Northern Line) and about 2 miles from Wimbledon. Until 1965, Wimbledon was a borough with a town hall (built 1931) at the corner of Queens Road and Wimbledon Bridge, near Wimbledon station. It is no longer a council building; Google Street View shows a Tesco Metro supermarket in the building. I think that the old Wimbledon Town Hall was the Merton Council main offices for a couple of decades after 1965. It is now the frontage to the Centre Court shopping centre, accessible directly from the railway station, opened some around 1988-90. The new council offices in Morden used to be a supermarket (various names ending as a Safeway) with an office block (Crown House) above it until at least 1980. Can't remember when that all changed and the Safeway moved into new premises built on the old Co-op department store, (which was what I can only describe as the most sparsely occupied store this side of the Urals). tim How many "Mark and Spencer" food halls are in that vicinity? |
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![]() On Aug 1, 9:19*pm, "Richard J." wrote: Franklin wrote on 01 August 2010 16:00:07 ... In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. *I'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? What do you mean by "the civic hall for the Wimbledon area"? *Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton, whose main headquarters is at the Civic Centre, London Road, Morden, SM4 5DX, near Morden Underground station (Northern Line) and about 2 miles from Wimbledon. Thanks Richard - exactly the point I was going to make! Until 1965, Wimbledon was a borough with a town hall (built 1931) at the corner of Queens Road and Wimbledon Bridge, near Wimbledon station. *It is no longer a council building; Google Street View shows a Tesco Metro supermarket in the building. The former Wimbledon Town Hall building is now part of the "Centre Court" shopping centre, which has a Tesco Metro on the ground floor. So, "Wimbledon Town Hall" doesn't really exist any more - at least, it's not somewhere someone would going in connection with any civil (i.e. council) activities, such as a meeting. Until the construction of the shopping centre, it was indeed used as the Town Hall for the London Borough of Merton, but the council's HQ moved to Mitcham circa 1990 to make way for the new development in Wimbledon. There also used to be a Civic Hall in Wimbledon which was I think behind the Town Hall building, but this got demolished as part of the new development - promises were apparently made by the (then Conservative) council that a new facility would be constructed in Wimbledon, but that never happened - since then I understand there have been various campaigns to get some sort of new local hall space in Wimbledon, for example this page on the Wimbledon Choral Society's website documents the push for a Wimbledon Arts Cent http://www.wimbledon-choral.org.uk/library/lib-hall-campaign.html Proponents of a "Big Society" might do well to bear in mind the need for civic spaces in which societies, and indeed society, can flourish. (I expect that if the OP is still reading this they're wondering what I'm on about!) |
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On Aug 1, 9:19*pm, "Richard J." wrote: Franklin wrote on 01 August 2010 16:00:07 ... In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. *I 'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? What do you mean by "the civic hall for the Wimbledon area"? *Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton, whose main headquarters is at the Civic Centre, London Road, Morden, SM4 5DX, near Morden Underground station (Northern Line) and about 2 miles from Wimbledon. Thanks Richard - exactly the point I was going to make! Until 1965, Wimbledon was a borough with a town hall (built 1931) at the corner of Queens Road and Wimbledon Bridge, near Wimbledon station. *It is no longer a council building; Google Street View shows a Tesco Metro supermarket in the building. The former Wimbledon Town Hall building is now part of the "Centre Court" shopping centre, which has a Tesco Metro on the ground floor. So, "Wimbledon Town Hall" doesn't really exist any more - at least, it's not somewhere someone would going in connection with any civil (i.e. council) activities, such as a meeting. Until the construction of the shopping centre, it was indeed used as the Town Hall for the London Borough of Merton, but the council's HQ moved to Mitcham circa 1990 to make way for the new development in Wimbledon. There also used to be a Civic Hall in Wimbledon which was I think behind the Town Hall building, but this got demolished as part of the new development - promises were apparently made by the (then Conservative) council that a new facility would be constructed in Wimbledon, but that never happened - since then I understand there have been various campaigns to get some sort of new local hall space in Wimbledon, for example this page on the Wimbledon Choral Society's website documents the push for a Wimbledon Arts Cent http://www.wimbledon-choral.org.uk/library/lib-hall-campaign.html Proponents of a "Big Society" might do well to bear in mind the need for civic spaces in which societies, and indeed society, can flourish. (I expect that if the OP is still reading this they're wondering what I'm on about!) I am thinking of visiting the town hall for Wimbledon to rummage through public files in order to find an old friend. I've lost touch with him but I figure there is some info in the local government offices: perhaps a building permit in his name, perhaps a statement he made at a public meeting, perhaps feedback he gave on local development plans. Here you can't search local records electronically. You have to visit in person. Is Wimbledon/Merton the same? |
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![]() On Aug 4, 11:39*pm, Franklin wrote: Mizter T wrote: On Aug 1, 9:19*pm, "Richard J." wrote: Franklin wrote on 01 August 2010 16:00:07 ... In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. I'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. Approximately how far is it and how much time should I allow for the journey? What do you mean by "the civic hall for the Wimbledon area"? Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton, whose main headquarters is at the Civic Centre, London Road, Morden, SM4 5DX, near Morden Underground station (Northern Line) and about 2 miles from Wimbledon. Thanks Richard - exactly the point I was going to make! Until 1965, Wimbledon was a borough with a town hall (built 1931) at the corner of Queens Road and Wimbledon Bridge, near Wimbledon station. *It is no longer a council building; Google Street View shows a Tesco Metro supermarket in the building. The former Wimbledon Town Hall building is now part of the "Centre Court" shopping centre, which has a Tesco Metro on the ground floor. So, "Wimbledon Town Hall" doesn't really exist any more - at least, it's not somewhere someone would going in connection with any civil (i.e. council) activities, such as a meeting. Until the construction of the shopping centre, it was indeed used as the Town Hall for the London Borough of Merton, but the council's HQ moved to Mitcham circa 1990 to make way for the new development in Wimbledon. Correction re the above paragraph - I meant to saythe council's HQ moved to *Morden*, not Mitcham. There also used to be a Civic Hall in Wimbledon which was I think behind the Town Hall building, but this got demolished as part of the new development - promises were apparently made by the (then Conservative) council that a new facility would be constructed in Wimbledon, but that never happened - since then I understand there have been various campaigns to get some sort of new local hall space in Wimbledon, for example this page on the Wimbledon Choral Society's website documents the push for a Wimbledon Arts Cent http://www.wimbledon-choral.org.uk/library/lib-hall-campaign.html Proponents of a "Big Society" might do well to bear in mind the need for civic spaces in which societies, and indeed society, can flourish. (I expect that if the OP is still reading this they're wondering what I'm on about!) I am thinking of visiting the town hall for Wimbledon to rummage through public files in order to find an old friend. *I've lost touch with him but I figure there is some info in the local government offices: *perhaps a building permit in his name, perhaps a statement he made at a public meeting, perhaps feedback he gave on local development plans. Here you can't search local records electronically. *You have to visit in person. *Is Wimbledon/Merton the same? The 'town hall' for Wimbledon is the London Borough of Merton's civic centre, which nowadays is located in Morden (a rather down at heel part of London) - the London Borough of Merton (aka Merton Council) covers Wimbledon and some other areas in south-west London. It's perhaps worth noting that there are actually 32 different London Boroughs within Greater London - the present arrangements have existed since 1965, beforehand things were different, there were smaller municipal boroughs, and indeed Greater London did not exist as an administrative area either. Merton's website is he http://www.merton.gov.uk/ Before you plan to head off there I'd absolutely advise you to do some more research about what kinds of records you might like to look for, where they might be, and how you might access them - things are different here to over the pond, and if you were to just turn up at the town hall or civic centre with a vague-ish idea about rummaging through their records I suspect you could well be rather disappointed. You might do well to pursue a number of other strategies too in looking for your friend, which could perhaps reap dividends more readily - all depends on the particular circumstances of course. Genealogists sometimes have a bit of a sideline in such work too I think. |
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Hi Franklin,
I live in the shadow of the Civic Centre near Morden. You can PM me and I will see what I can find if that helps. I have used the references at the Civic Centre extensively so know my way around what is available or know someone else who might. OC |
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Franklin wrote on 04 August
2010 23:39:42 ... Mizter T wrote: On Aug 1, 9:19 pm, "Richard wrote: g wrote on 01 August 2010 16:00:07 ... In a year or two I expect to be visiting the main Olympic stadium. I'm considering a side trip to visit the civic hall for the Wimbledon area. [snip] I am thinking of visiting the town hall for Wimbledon to rummage through public files in order to find an old friend. I've lost touch with him but I figure there is some info in the local government offices: perhaps a building permit in his name, perhaps a statement he made at a public meeting, perhaps feedback he gave on local development plans. Here you can't search local records electronically. You have to visit in person. Is Wimbledon/Merton the same? It is certainly worth an online search. Things like planning applications, minutes of council meetings are online. For the stuff that isn't online, I don't think there is likely to be any practical way of searching for his name in Merton's records. The London Borough of Merton has a population of about 200,000. You would do better, I think, to take out a subscription to www.192.com and search there for his name, which would cover electoral registers (though only if he agreed to his name's inclusion in the online register), phone directories, and various other records. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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