In misc.transport.urban-transit MetroGnome wrote:
"Access Systems" wrote:
NYC TA buses have been 100% ADA compliant for a number of years...

Yes, but how accessible are they overall to the disabled population? Not

ADA is for all people with disabilities

just wheelchair users, but also the far more numerous "ambulant disabled"
who can walk with difficulty (most of whom don't consider themselves to be
"disabled enough" to use the lift)? A standard-floor bus with a wheelchair

people are permitted to "stand" on the lifts, in fact it is manitory that
they be allow to.

lift fitted may meet ADA requirements - but it still leaves a *lot* to be
desired as far as disability access is concerned, when compared with a
low-floor bus.

I agree the low floor bus is the best thing since sliced bread but a lot
of transit authorities in the USA are resistant. the ADA only requires
access not how it is to be done

As you note elsewhere in the thread, the private bus lines running routes
under contract to the City (which I understand are marketed as part of the
NYCTA network, and accept MetroCards) are not yet 100% ADA compliant.

yes and no, they are not yet ADA compliant because they are running rust
buckets that should have been replaced years ago and is the main reason
for the effort to get them taken over.

also a much higher percentage of the subway (tube) stations are
accessible..

NOT TRUE!

Quite the reverse, in fact - the London Underground has a much higher
percentage of stations accessible than the New York Subway. Look at the MTA
and TfL websites (http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/mta/ada/stations.htm and
http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/tubem...s_guide_1.pdf).


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