How do you work out what the supplement is to travel on HS1? I will have a
Maidenhead to all zones Travelcard with a senior discount and I though I
might use HS1 from St P to Stratford International (then the bus out) just
for the fun of it and only one way.

"Graham Harrison" wrote:

How do you work out what the supplement is to travel on HS1? I will have
a Maidenhead to all zones Travelcard with a senior discount and I though I
might use HS1 from St P to Stratford International (then the bus out) just
for the fun of it and only one way.

I don't think that either an inboundary Travelcard, or an outboundary
Travelcard that's from a station for which HS1 would not be a valid route
into London, has any validity on the Southeastern Highspeed services
whatsoever (and there isn't a supplement which confers magic powers on it to
make it valid).

So basically you'd need to buy a ticket (£5 single, £3.30 single w/Railcard
discount).

One can take a peek at Stratford International and partake in the unusual
shuttle bus ride through the building site that links it to Stratford
(Regional) station without riding on the Highspeed trains - just head to
Stratford Regional and then find the shuttle bus from there to Int'l
(departs from the end of platform 11 or whatever it is), look around the
concourse/foyer and visit the flashy loos though note that there are ticket
gates which'll prevent you from getting down to the platforms, before
getting the shuttle bus back to Stratford Regional. (There's some notional
restriction on access to the Int'l station being limited to SE Highspeed
ticket holders, but given that there's ticket machines and I think a ticket
office available at the Int'l station, I don't think this means much, and
no-one checks for a ticket getting on the shuttle bus either.)

On 04/11/2010 15:37, Mizter T wrote:

One can take a peek at Stratford International and partake in the
unusual shuttle bus ride through the building site that links it to
Stratford (Regional) station without riding on the Highspeed trains -
just head to Stratford Regional and then find the shuttle bus from there
to Int'l (departs from the end of platform 11 or whatever it is), look
around the concourse/foyer and visit the flashy loos though note that
there are ticket gates which'll prevent you from getting down to the
platforms, before getting the shuttle bus back to Stratford Regional.
(There's some notional restriction on access to the Int'l station being
limited to SE Highspeed ticket holders, but given that there's ticket
machines and I think a ticket office available at the Int'l station, I
don't think this means much, and no-one checks for a ticket getting on
the shuttle bus either.)

A couple of months ago I took the shuttle bus to Stratford International
(as you say, there was no ticket check on the bus) and asked there for a
platform ticket, saying that I wanted to take some photographs. This was
issued to me for the princely sum of 10p, and I had the impression that
it was not an unusual request. The ticket was valid for 1 hour from the
time of issue; I overstayed by about 30 minutes and perhaps for that
reason the ticket would not open the barrier gate. However, the gate was
opened for me by a member of staff without any problem.

--
John Ray

"Mizter T" wrote in message
...

"Graham Harrison" wrote:

How do you work out what the supplement is to travel on HS1? I will
have a Maidenhead to all zones Travelcard with a senior discount and I
though I might use HS1 from St P to Stratford International (then the bus
out) just for the fun of it and only one way.

I don't think that either an inboundary Travelcard, or an outboundary
Travelcard that's from a station for which HS1 would not be a valid route
into London, has any validity on the Southeastern Highspeed services
whatsoever (and there isn't a supplement which confers magic powers on it
to make it valid).

So basically you'd need to buy a ticket (£5 single, £3.30 single
w/Railcard discount).

One can take a peek at Stratford International and partake in the unusual
shuttle bus ride through the building site that links it to Stratford
(Regional) station without riding on the Highspeed trains - just head to
Stratford Regional and then find the shuttle bus from there to Int'l
(departs from the end of platform 11 or whatever it is), look around the
concourse/foyer and visit the flashy loos though note that there are
ticket gates which'll prevent you from getting down to the platforms,
before getting the shuttle bus back to Stratford Regional. (There's some
notional restriction on access to the Int'l station being limited to SE
Highspeed ticket holders, but given that there's ticket machines and I
think a ticket office available at the Int'l station, I don't think this
means much, and no-one checks for a ticket getting on the shuttle bus
either.)

Well....

This page

http://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk...speed-tickets/

says

If you have a ticket to London Terminals, an outboundary** Travelcard ticket
or you hold a Season ticket, you can upgrade to high speed services by
paying a supplement in addition to your current ticket.

But I can't see where it says what the supplement will be (although given
the fares you menation it's not going to be a fortune!). Mind you, here's
a thought, I'll bet the reference to outboundary Travelcards refers to
inbound journeys from "SET land" not people like me coming from somewhere
else outside London and wanting just to ride to Stratford. I think I feel
an e-mail to SET coming on!

"Graham Harrison" :

"Mizter T" wrote:

"Graham Harrison" wrote:

How do you work out what the supplement is to travel on HS1? I will
have a Maidenhead to all zones Travelcard with a senior discount and I
though I might use HS1 from St P to Stratford International (then the
bus out) just for the fun of it and only one way.

I don't think that either an inboundary Travelcard, or an outboundary
Travelcard that's from a station for which HS1 would not be a valid route
into London, has any validity on the Southeastern Highspeed services
whatsoever (and there isn't a supplement which confers magic powers on it
to make it valid).

So basically you'd need to buy a ticket (£5 single, £3.30 single
w/Railcard discount).

[snip]

Well....

This page

http://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk...speed-tickets/

says

If you have a ticket to London Terminals, an outboundary** Travelcard
ticket or you hold a Season ticket, you can upgrade to high speed services
by paying a supplement in addition to your current ticket.

But I can't see where it says what the supplement will be (although given
the fares you menation it's not going to be a fortune!). Mind you,
here's a thought, I'll bet the reference to outboundary Travelcards refers
to inbound journeys from "SET land" not people like me coming from
somewhere else outside London and wanting just to ride to Stratford. I
think I feel an e-mail to SET coming on!

Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to get at with my reference to "an
outboundary Travelcard that's from a station for which HS1 would not be a
valid route into London" - i.e. somewhere other than 'SET land' (e.g.
Maidenhead!).

On Nov 4, 4:21*pm, John Ray
wrote:
On 04/11/2010 15:37, Mizter T wrote:

One can take a peek at Stratford International and partake in the
unusual shuttle bus ride through the building site that links it to
Stratford (Regional) station without riding on the Highspeed trains -
just head to Stratford Regional and then find the shuttle bus from there
to Int'l (departs from the end of platform 11 or whatever it is), look
around the concourse/foyer and visit the flashy loos though note that
there are ticket gates which'll prevent you from getting down to the
platforms, before getting the shuttle bus back to Stratford Regional.
(There's some notional restriction on access to the Int'l station being
limited to SE Highspeed ticket holders, but given that there's ticket
machines and I think a ticket office available at the Int'l station, I
don't think this means much, and no-one checks for a ticket getting on
the shuttle bus either.)

A couple of months ago I took the shuttle bus to Stratford International
(as you say, there was no ticket check on the bus) and asked there for a
platform ticket, saying that I wanted to take some photographs. This was
issued to me for the princely sum of 10p, and I had the impression that
it was not an unusual request. The ticket was valid for 1 hour from the
time of issue; I overstayed by about 30 minutes and perhaps for that
reason the ticket would not open the barrier gate. However, the gate was
opened for me by a member of staff without any problem.

Conversely, the one time I found myself at the top of platform 11,
there was a ticket inspector checking people before they got the bus,
and selling tickets to those who didn't have them. (Being too much of
a cheapskate to pay a fiver to get to Central London, and grumbling a
bit about there being no supplement to a weekly travelcard, I retraced
my steps and took the Central Line instead.)

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:45:58 -0000, "tim...."
wrote:

If you didn't have a ticket for HS1, how did you expect to get through the
barriers to get on/off the train?

Perhaps the explanation"One can take a peek at Stratford International
and partake in the unusual shuttle bus ride through the building site
that links it to Stratford (Regional) station without riding on the
Highspeed trains " gives it away?

"Ivor" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:45:58 -0000, "tim...."
wrote:

If you didn't have a ticket for HS1, how did you expect to get through the
barriers to get on/off the train?

Perhaps the explanation"One can take a peek at Stratford International
and partake in the unusual shuttle bus ride through the building site
that links it to Stratford (Regional) station without riding on the
Highspeed trains " gives it away?

That bit I got, but the PP said "Being too much of a cheapskate to pay a
fiver to get to Central London, and grumbling a bit about there being no
supplement to a weekly travelcard, I retraced my steps and took the Central
Line instead"

Implying that he actually wated to go to Liverpool Street, not just take a
peek at the station.

tim

"tim...." wrote in message
...

"Ivor" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:45:58 -0000, "tim...."
wrote:

If you didn't have a ticket for HS1, how did you expect to get through
the
barriers to get on/off the train?

Perhaps the explanation"One can take a peek at Stratford International
and partake in the unusual shuttle bus ride through the building site
that links it to Stratford (Regional) station without riding on the
Highspeed trains " gives it away?

That bit I got, but the PP said "Being too much of a cheapskate to pay a
fiver to get to Central London, and grumbling a bit about there being no
supplement to a weekly travelcard, I retraced my steps and took the
Central Line instead"

Implying that he actually wated to go to Liverpool Street, not just take a
peek at the station.

Oops, ... St Pancras...

tim

On Nov 7, 1:05*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Ivor" wrote in message

...

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:45:58 -0000, "tim...."
wrote:

If you didn't have a ticket for HS1, how did you expect to get through the
barriers to get on/off the train?

Perhaps the explanation"One can take a peek at Stratford International
and partake in the unusual shuttle bus ride through the building site
that links it to Stratford (Regional) station without riding on the
Highspeed trains " gives it away?

That bit I got, but the PP said "Being too much of a cheapskate to pay a
fiver to get to Central London, and grumbling a bit about there being no
supplement to a weekly travelcard, I retraced my steps and took the Central
Line instead"

Implying that he actually wated to go to Liverpool Street, not just take a
peek at the station.

Bit of both. If there was a reasonable ( £2.50, say) supplement to a
Travelcard for HS1 to St Pancras, I'd have bought that. If I could
have had a look around the station for free, I might have done that
too. As neither was available, I continued my journey another day.