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On Nov 28, 11:05*am, Neil Williams
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:56:13 +0000, Roland Perry
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That's a display convention used all over the country.


Except Milton Keynes, apparently. *Another reason why it's a broken
waste of money.


Is there a display? I seem to remember the displays being in place
about three years ago, saying that they were under test. Last time I
looked, they were still under test.
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:13:18 -0800 (PST), MIG
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Is there a display? I seem to remember the displays being in place
about three years ago, saying that they were under test. Last time I
looked, they were still under test.


They're "working" now. For some values of "working".

The whole thing was a mis-planned waste of money. As another example,
no displays are provided at the railway station, which is easily in
the top 4 busiest locations on the network. (This was supposedly
because of difficulty getting agreement on where to put them as much
of it isn't Council land, but such things are not insurmountable).

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On Nov 28, 1:20*pm, Neil Williams
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:13:18 -0800 (PST), MIG

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Is there a display? *I seem to remember the displays being in place
about three years ago, saying that they were under test. *Last time I
looked, they were still under test.


They're "working" now. *For some values of "working".

The whole thing was a mis-planned waste of money. *As another example,
no displays are provided at the railway station, which is easily in
the top 4 busiest locations on the network. *(This was supposedly
because of difficulty getting agreement on where to put them as much
of it isn't Council land, but such things are not insurmountable).


I did wonder about that rather grand omission. But I would have
thought, er ... by the bus stops? One would have thought that it was
a yes/no question "can we put them by the bus stops?" rather any issue
of where.
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:27:44 -0800 (PST), MIG
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I did wonder about that rather grand omission. But I would have
thought, er ... by the bus stops? One would have thought that it was
a yes/no question "can we put them by the bus stops?" rather any issue
of where.


The stops aren't of the new type, though, which is part of the issue.
The old, flimsy green ones don't have anywhere to put it, so it'd need
to go on a pole. And there's the plan to redevelop Station Square, if
it ever happens.

Ideally, there'd be a main departure board at each of the main
locations, including inside the station. There are a few in the
shopping centre, but I can't think of any others.

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The whole thing was a mis-planned waste of money. *As another example,
no displays are provided at the railway station, which is easily in
the top 4 busiest locations on the network. *(This was supposedly
because of difficulty getting agreement on where to put them as much
of it isn't Council land, but such things are not insurmountable).


About 6 years ago (maybe longer), Portsmouth introduced a similar
system on key routes in the city. These screens were almost always
displaying "System under test" messages until about two years ago,
when they went blank.

Earlier this year, all of the "high tech" shelters (which also
featured a cut-down web browser with travel and local information)
were ripped out and replaced with standard affairs. Quite how many
millions this cost is anyone's guess. Whether it was a problem with
the bus-mounted equipment, or the backroom infrastructure is a
mystery, but there was an outcry in the local press...

(sorry for being off-region, yet on-topic!)

M


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