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On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Paul Corfield wrote:

I would suggest you refresh your understanding of the Paris bus network
via this link.

http://www.ratp.fr/informer/pdf/orie...s_paris&fm=gif

No bus stops at 20.30 M-F - the time is now 22.00 and only two routes
seem to stop. Many routes are daily and very few adopt the "barre"
system of part route operation on Sundays.


What's the 'barre' system? I had a google but couldn't find anything.

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:03:32 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Paul Corfield wrote:

I would suggest you refresh your understanding of the Paris bus network
via this link.

http://www.ratp.fr/informer/pdf/orie...s_paris&fm=gif

No bus stops at 20.30 M-F - the time is now 22.00 and only two routes
seem to stop. Many routes are daily and very few adopt the "barre"
system of part route operation on Sundays.


What's the 'barre' system? I had a google but couldn't find anything.


Strictly there should be an acute accent on the last "e". All barré
means is that a bus does not cover the full daytime route. Barré usually
applies evenings and Sundays and the route number displayed on the bus
has a diagonal line (or slash) across it to show that barré operates.


Ah, je comprends, merci. Essentially like our N mechanism for night buses,
except that (a) without the bit where sometimes N means an extended or
altered route, and (b) applying on earlier, and on sundays. And (c) using
an overprinted symbol rather than modifying the route number. But similar
in all other ways!

If you click on the link above you will see the table of route numbers
against days / times of day at the bottom. The diagonal line is shown
under certain routes.


Oh, i thought that was a bowling scoresheet!

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Paul Corfield wrote on 12 March 2011 11:21:30 ...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:56:52 +0000, Tom
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:03:32 +0000, Tom
wrote:


What's the 'barre' system? I had a google but couldn't find anything.

Strictly there should be an acute accent on the last "e". All barré
means is that a bus does not cover the full daytime route. Barré usually
applies evenings and Sundays and the route number displayed on the bus
has a diagonal line (or slash) across it to show that barré operates.


Ah, je comprends, merci. Essentially like our N mechanism for night buses,
except that (a) without the bit where sometimes N means an extended or
altered route, and (b) applying on earlier, and on sundays. And (c) using
an overprinted symbol rather than modifying the route number. But similar
in all other ways!


Err sort of. I think the barré concept has been in existence for a very
long time so the French are very familiar with it. The only UK
equivalent I can think of is the "E" suffix used on buses in Birmingham
which indicates a short journey. I'm sure there must be others but I
can't think of any.

Paris now has quite a decent night bus network (Noctambus) and each
route is lettered rather than numbered. Not quite as frequent as some
of London's busiest routes but a welcome development given what existed
a few years ago (i.e. not much). Many of the night routes stretch out
into the suburbs and parallel the RER and Transilien rail network.


Noctambus was the old night bus network with 18 lettered routes. The
new night bus network, introduced in 2005, is called Noctilien, and has
42 numbered routes preceded by "N", e.g. N24.
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:56:52 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:03:32 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

What's the 'barre' system? I had a google but couldn't find anything.

If you click on the link above you will see the table of route numbers
against days / times of day at the bottom. The diagonal line is shown
under certain routes.


Oh, i thought that was a bowling scoresheet!


Oh I think you might just be teasing me with that response. You're
cleverer than that.


I should have realised it wasn't - there aren't nearly enough strikes.

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