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Saw a London United bus on route 10 parked at the terminus at Kings
Cross this afternoon. Underneath the "London United " logo was the
logo for the RATP (Regie Autonome Des Transports Parisiens) which runs
the buses, metro, trams and RER in Paris.

This was news to me, at it remains to be seen what difference French
ownership might make.

Worth noting that in Paris, two thirds of the buses stop running at
8:30pm, and only about half run on Sundays.


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Also the metro runs 1 hour later on Friday and Saturday nights,
finishing at 2am. How can they do this when London can't?. They must
have to do engineering work and maintenance just like London does.


Livingstone proposed it around 2005? With a later start to compensate on
Sat and Sun to keep maintainance time the same . IIRC the immediate
objections then came from the unions.
Johnson carried the proposal forward, but the plan was still impossible to
implement - by then the line upgrade plans as well as the unions were being
blamed for the lack of change.

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On 08/03/2011 18:51, Paul wrote:

Purely coinicidentally, I was in Paris recently. The metro there
generally has a reputation for being more reliable the the London
Underground.


France's external reputation for transport doesn't generally stand up to
reality.

Other useful French phrases I've come across are "retard" (=departure)
and "service autocar" (=train not going to/from Paris).

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On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:10:42 -0000, "Paul Scott"
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Sat and Sun to keep maintainance time the same . IIRC the

immediate
objections then came from the unions.


And I think owners of shops etc, who on a Saturday at least might
have had to travel *to* work on a night bus.

Neil

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On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:21:19 -0800 (PST), Paul
wrote:
Saw a London United bus on route 10 parked at the terminus at Kings
Cross this afternoon. Underneath the "London United " logo was the
logo for the RATP (Regie Autonome Des Transports Parisiens) which runs
the buses, metro, trams and RER in Paris.

This was news to me, at it remains to be seen what difference French
ownership might make.


Well, it's been French since 1997. Does it look like the logo on
http://www.lonutd.co.uk ? They need to "relooker" the title of the
site I think.

Worth noting that in Paris, two thirds of the buses stop running at
8:30pm, and only about half run on Sundays.


I always thought that odd, but then the geography, history, coverage
of the metro and travelling patterns are quite different.

I'm glad to hear that the logos have gone up already, I'm still
waiting to see one here. I think the RATP logo is a future classic of
graphic design. I hope it lasts as long as TfL's roundel, now making
a return on the buses, the hand that feeds should never have been
hidden away IMO. I wonder if the two can co-exist?

Richard.


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On 08/03/2011 20:16, Richard wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:21:19 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Saw a London United bus on route 10 parked at the terminus at Kings
Cross this afternoon. Underneath the "London United " logo was the
logo for the RATP (Regie Autonome Des Transports Parisiens) which runs
the buses, metro, trams and RER in Paris.

This was news to me, at it remains to be seen what difference French
ownership might make.


Well, it's been French since 1997. Does it look like the logo on
http://www.lonutd.co.uk ? They need to "relooker" the title of the
site I think.

Worth noting that in Paris, two thirds of the buses stop running at
8:30pm, and only about half run on Sundays.


I always thought that odd, but then the geography, history, coverage
of the metro and travelling patterns are quite different.

I'm glad to hear that the logos have gone up already, I'm still
waiting to see one here. I think the RATP logo is a future classic of
graphic design. I hope it lasts as long as TfL's roundel, now making
a return on the buses, the hand that feeds should never have been
hidden away IMO. I wonder if the two can co-exist?

Richard.

I notice that some busses have the Nederlandse Spoorwegen insignia on
them. Is DB around anywhere?
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On Mar 8, 7:58*pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:

On 08/03/2011 18:51, Paul wrote:

Purely coinicidentally, I was in Paris recently. The metro there
generally has a reputation for being more reliable the the London
Underground.


France's external reputation for transport doesn't generally stand up to
reality.

Other useful French phrases I've come across are "retard" (=departure)
and "service autocar" (=train not going to/from Paris).


retard is delay.
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On Mar 9, 1:08*am, Mizter T wrote:

On Mar 8, 7:58*pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:

On 08/03/2011 18:51, Paul wrote:


Purely coinicidentally, I was in Paris recently. The metro there
generally has a reputation for being more reliable the the London
Underground.


France's external reputation for transport doesn't generally stand up to
reality.


Other useful French phrases I've come across are "retard" (=departure)
and "service autocar" (=train not going to/from Paris).


retard is delay.


I see I seem to have suffered a SOH failure...!
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17:08:05 on Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Mizter T remarked:
Other useful French phrases I've come across are "retard" (=departure)
and "service autocar" (=train not going to/from Paris).


retard is delay.


deranged is "out of order" (sometimes seen on lifts from platform to
street).
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