On Mar 30, 10:02*pm, Bruce wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
On Mar 30, 1:45*pm, CJB wrote:

It is not a matter of if but when there is a train crash / smash with
massive loss of life on these brand new cattle trains.

Only in the A380 sense, i.e. the presence of more people in the train
will necessarily mean more deaths/injuries. *A crowded train might
actually be safer - no space to be thrown around and injured from
this.

Yes, that worked *so very well* at Moorgate in 1975.

(not)-

The body count there was due to structural failure of the coaches,
they were not designed with any collision resistance, as was the
practice of the time, the morally bankrupt politicians regarding a
large body count not as something to be avoided, but an opportunity to
be exploited for propaganda , as has been demonstrated many times
before and since.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 05:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
"alexander.keys1" wrote:
The body count there was due to structural failure of the coaches,
they were not designed with any collision resistance, as was the
practice of the time, the morally bankrupt politicians regarding a
large body count not as something to be avoided, but an opportunity to
be exploited for propaganda , as has been demonstrated many times
before and since.

Ah, my mistake. You are merely a paranoid conspiracy theorist ****wit.

B2003

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alexander.keys1 wrote:
Yes, that worked *so very well* at Moorgate in 1975.

(not)-

The body count there was due to structural failure of the coaches,
they were not designed with any collision resistance, as was the
practice of the time,

I haven't checked about collision resistance of the stock, but the large
number of deaths at Moorgate were because the train effectively
jackknifed in the vertical plane: the rear of car 1 and the front of car
3 lifted up, overriding car 2 and forcing it downwards. The momentum of
the train resulted in everything being compressed.

There were other end-of-tunnel collisions on the tube where few or no
people were killed, because the train stayed in line and the ends just
pushed against each other without crumpling. The difference at Moorgate
was that the tunnel was much larger than the train, giving room to lift.

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