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The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now


If Olympia had a long interval without train there would have had to be a SERIOUS disruption, since the service is
run with 2 trains running with 15-18 minutes between. (So a complete round takes 30-36 minutes for that short
stretch)

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The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now


If Olympia had a long interval without train there would have had to be
a SERIOUS disruption, since the service is
run with 2 trains running with 15-18 minutes between. (So a complete
round takes 30-36 minutes for that short
stretch)

Sorry to be OT but I was looking at the current District Line timetable
today and wondered exactly where the Triangle depot is...
TIA
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"Richard J." wrote in message
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David Splett wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
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Thanks. Someone must have thrown the wrong switch somewhere
affecting the display at Bayswater.


I don't know for sure, but my guess would be that the message you
described is programmed into the system (1980s software, don't
forget), and is so difficult to change that noone has bothered.


Er, what's the problem with changing 1980s software? At least if it's
software, it *can* be readily changed, as distinct from firmware or
hardware.


It's firmware. The controllers for the DMI look rather like a teletype!


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Kat wrote:
In message , Lars Elmvang
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The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now


If Olympia had a long interval without train there would have had to
be a SERIOUS disruption, since the service is
run with 2 trains running with 15-18 minutes between. (So a complete
round takes 30-36 minutes for that short
stretch)

Sorry to be OT but I was looking at the current District Line
timetable today and wondered exactly where the Triangle depot is...
TIA


AFAIK it's Triangle Sidings rather than Triangle Depot.

It's in the triangle between Gloucester Road, Earl's Court and High Street
Kensington, actually underneath the block that includes Sainsbury's just
off Cromwell Road (used to be West London Air Terminal many years ago).
Access to the sidings is from the District Line south of High Street
Kensington.
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In message , Richard J.
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Kat wrote:
In message , Lars Elmvang
writes
The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now

If Olympia had a long interval without train there would have had to
be a SERIOUS disruption, since the service is
run with 2 trains running with 15-18 minutes between. (So a complete
round takes 30-36 minutes for that short
stretch)

Sorry to be OT but I was looking at the current District Line
timetable today and wondered exactly where the Triangle depot is...
TIA


AFAIK it's Triangle Sidings rather than Triangle Depot.


Yes it is, I mis-remembered it...

It's in the triangle between Gloucester Road, Earl's Court and High Street
Kensington, actually underneath the block that includes Sainsbury's just
off Cromwell Road (used to be West London Air Terminal many years ago).
Access to the sidings is from the District Line south of High Street
Kensington.


Thanks.
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On 29 Dec 2003, Thomas Crame wrote:

"Richard J." wrote in message ...
Ishmael Sayle III wrote:

There is no service from Edgware road to Olympia on this and the
previous timetable at any time of the day.


Thanks. Someone must have thrown the wrong switch somewhere affecting the
display at Bayswater.


The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now


I was on one when it happened once: it was a circle as far as Aldgate, and
then changed; i never thought i'd be leaving Aldgate on a H+C train!

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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Richard J. wrote:

David Splett wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
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Thanks. Someone must have thrown the wrong switch somewhere
affecting the display at Bayswater.


I don't know for sure, but my guess would be that the message you
described is programmed into the system (1980s software, don't
forget), and is so difficult to change that noone has bothered.


Er, what's the problem with changing 1980s software? At least if it's
software, it *can* be readily changed,


Um, changing software often isn't as easy as you make out. In principle,
it's entirely malleable, but in practice, it's often incredibly difficult.

tom

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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On 29 Dec 2003, Thomas Crame wrote:

The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now


I was on one when it happened once: it was a circle as far as Aldgate, and
then changed; i never thought i'd be leaving Aldgate on a H+C train!


A very common occurrence in recent years. I've also been on H&Cs that became
Circle services upon reaching Liverpool Street.


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Tom Anderson wrote:

The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now

I was on one when it happened once: it was a circle as far as Aldgate, and
then changed; i never thought i'd be leaving Aldgate on a H+C train!


It happens every evening, although some trains change only at Edgware Road

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Jack Taylor wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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On 29 Dec 2003, Thomas Crame wrote:

The service could have been disrupted, and the controller may have
decided to run one, either to get a train back to time or if Olympia
has had a long interval without a train. I've known Circles to be
reformed into Hammersmith's en route before now


I was on one when it happened once: it was a circle as far as Aldgate, and
then changed; i never thought i'd be leaving Aldgate on a H+C train!


A very common occurrence in recent years. I've also been on H&Cs that
became Circle services upon reaching Liverpool Street.


Now that makes sense, as does Lars's observation of them changing at
Edgware Road, as these are stations that are on both the circle and the
H+C. Changing at Aldgate just struck me as surreal - why not wait until
Liverpool Street? Of course, whether they change at Aldgate, Liverpool St,
Edgware Road or anywhere else is really irrelevant, as it only makes any
difference once you get to Paddington or whatever's after (or Liverpool
Street if you're going clockwise).

Still, they ought to be consistent, or else we'd end up with metropolitan
trains converting to H+C at Great Portland Street, over to circle at
Farringdon, and then back to metropolitan at Aldgate, just in time to
terminate. It'd be anarchy, anarchy i tell you!

tom

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