If the Northern Line were extended to Clapham Junction, it would not be used by people whose destination is Waterloo but it would be used by those travelling to Bank, Moorgate, Old Street etc.

Let's now turn your argument on its head. Why would anyone working near the Bank Of England who travels via Clapham Junction prefer to stay on their train to Waterloo (or Victoria) knowing full well that they will have to fight even to gain access to the Underground platforms and then be crushed like sardines in an overcrowded train and have to make an extra train change when the alternative is to change at Clapham Junction into a train that is not yet crowded and which may well have unfilled seats?

If such an extension were added to the Northern Line in its present form, probably not. But if the Northern Line were split into two separate lines - which will almost certainly have to happen if a High Speed Line from Euston is built - then quite possibly.

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On Nov 18, 10:36*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
TfL have also explained that there can't be an interchange at Vauxhall,
IIRC... *Only the Charing Cross branch can possibly handle the increase in
passengers.

....which I firmly disagree with. Though IIRC, they only said it would
be slightly more expensive to build than a normal station. Loading-
wise, the Victoria line as-is probably couldn't take the loads, true
(though a large chunk will be joining the Vic Line at Victoria
anyway), but once Chelney arrives it will be able to, and we'll wish
the line ran under Vauxhall with platform tunnels already excavated
waiting to be fitted out. Basic planning people - it's not rocket
science.

It's a transport network after all...what's the point if you aren't
going to build interchanges - it's like we're heading back to the
tubes as--built where interchange were a novelty as they didn't want
you using competing company's lines.

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In message , Paul Scott
writes
"Jamie Thompson" wrote in message
...
...I think a station at Clapham Junction would do
wonders for serving the local area if done correctly, and to the same
end I'd add a few more. Clapham Junction, Battersea Central (on
Battersea Park Road), Battersea Park (proper unified station, not the
3 disparate ones we will end up with), Nine Elms, then Vauxhall.
TfL have also explained that there can't be an interchange at Vauxhall,
IIRC... Only the Charing Cross branch can possibly handle the increase
in passengers.
I thought all this rumour started because the American Embassy was
moving from *square to the New Covent Garden and wanted the Northern
extended down there from Kennington, where upon TfL said it would only
consider the route if it continued south to serve Clapham Junction.
Have things really taken hold enough for a serious bid from Wandsworth
to get it down to there and if so where will it terminate? Indeed,
would they put in a loop there and do away with Kennington loop leaving
just the siding?
--
Clive

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In message
,
Jamie Thompson writes
but once Chelney arrives
What's "Chelney"?
--
Clive

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"Clive" wrote in message
...

I thought all this rumour started because the American Embassy was moving
from *square to the New Covent Garden and wanted the Northern extended
down there from Kennington, where upon TfL said it would only consider the
route if it continued south to serve Clapham Junction.

Don't know where that last bit comes from. The online info I've found all
says the opposite.

Have things really taken hold enough for a serious bid from Wandsworth to
get it down to there and if so where will it terminate? Indeed, would
they put in a loop there and do away with Kennington loop leaving just the
siding?

The basic route is agreed- they are working on the details now, there is
significant info about it online:

http://www.northernlineextension.com/

the plan is to branch off from, and back onto the existing Kennington Loop
and run to a two platform terminus at Battersea. Only trains from the
Charing Cross branch will be able to reach the extension. The latest
consultation (just closed) was about the details of certain surface
temporary works for the build programme - which suggests they are moving on
towards the TWA application.

Paul S

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In message , Clive
writes

I thought all this rumour started because the American Embassy was
moving from *square to the New Covent Garden and wanted the Northern
extended down there from Kennington, where upon TfL said it would only
consider the route if it continued south to serve Clapham Junction.
Have things really taken hold enough for a serious bid from Wandsworth
to get it down to there and if so where will it terminate?

The trigger for the plan was the redevelopment of Battersea Power
Station, which is where the Northern Line extension is planned to end.
The developers of the power station (Treasury Holdings) are putting up
most of the funding, but the US embassy is prepared to contribute
because of the likelihood of a station at Nine Elms.

I can't see projection to Clapham Junction being practical, despite the
enthusiasm of the LB of Wandsworth - it would need substantial
rebuilding of the NR station, which is on a very cramped site and which
is of course incredibly busy. It's one of the main reasons why Crossrail
2 is planned to run further west (via Putney) - Clapham Junction is full
for the foreseeable future.

--
Paul Terry

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In message , Clive
writes

What's "Chelney"?

The Chelsea-Hackney line, more properly known as Crossrail 2.
--
Paul Terry

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In article ,
(Clive) wrote:

In message
,
Jamie Thompson writes
but once Chelney arrives
What's "Chelney"?

Chelsea to Hackney. I think the current fad for the scheme name is Crossrail
2.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

"Clive" wrote in message
...

I thought all this rumour started because the American Embassy was
moving from *square to the New Covent Garden and wanted the
Northern extended down there from Kennington, where upon TfL said
it would only consider the route if it continued south to serve
Clapham Junction.

Don't know where that last bit comes from. The online info I've
found all says the opposite.

Have things really taken hold enough for a serious bid from
Wandsworth to get it down to there and if so where will it
terminate? Indeed, would they put in a loop there and do away
with Kennington loop leaving just the siding?

The basic route is agreed- they are working on the details now, there
is significant info about it online:

http://www.northernlineextension.com/

the plan is to branch off from, and back onto the existing Kennington
Loop and run to a two platform terminus at Battersea. Only trains
from the Charing Cross branch will be able to reach the extension.
The latest consultation (just closed) was about the details of
certain surface temporary works for the build programme - which
suggests they are moving on towards the TWA application.

Have they now dropped the option for an intermediate station on the branch?

--
Colin Rosenstiel