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In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

The basic route is agreed- they are working on the details now, there
is significant info about it online:

http://www.northernlineextension.com/

the plan is to branch off from, and back onto the existing Kennington
Loop and run to a two platform terminus at Battersea. Only trains
from the Charing Cross branch will be able to reach the extension.
The latest consultation (just closed) was about the details of
certain surface temporary works for the build programme - which
suggests they are moving on towards the TWA application.

Have they now dropped the option for an intermediate station on the
branch?

I didn't explicitly mention the station at Nine Elms, but only because the
earlier poster (Clive) had only asked where the line would terminate...

Paul S

Paul

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In message , Paul Scott
writes
I didn't explicitly mention the station at Nine Elms, but only because
the earlier poster (Clive) had only asked where the line would
terminate...
I'll be as clear as I can. I don't know anything about London but a
friend of mine that lives there said "Nine Elms" had now changed it's
name to "New Covent Garden", hence my original assertion, but I am happy
to be corrected if I am wrong, indeed I would appreciate anything that I
don't know being filled in. Hence I have made a few connections that
may very well be wrong. To this end, I would like to know what is the
history and subsequent progress of the planning of this new line. I
know the Kennington loop only connects with the west end side of the
northern line because back in the 60s and 70s I worked on it, will it
stay in service? When I worked there we used to run a frequent service
from Golders Green-Golders Green via the Kennington loop so I was
wondering will it remain or be moved south etc.? Hope you can now see
that I approach this from a position of ignorance.
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Clive

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In message , Clive
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I'll be as clear as I can. I don't know anything about London but a
friend of mine that lives there said "Nine Elms" had now changed it's
name to "New Covent Garden",

I think that may be an estate-agent term. Officially the area is still
known as Nine Elms.

I would like to know what is the history and subsequent progress of
the planning of this new line.

There's a lot of information at http://northernlineextension.com

I know the Kennington loop only connects with the west end side of the
northern line because back in the 60s and 70s I worked on it, will it
stay in service?

Almost certainly, as the proposed terminus of the extension at Battersea
is only two-track, which would not be sufficient for turning back the
full peak-time service of the CX branch. I don't think any service
pattern has yet been proposed, but I guess that it might well involve
alternates trains turning at Kennington and Battersea.

The four proposed routes (of which number 2 is the preferred option) can
be seen in:

http://northernlineextension.com/med...ns_lr_pages.pd
f

You will see that they all involve the extension turning off one side of
the existing Kennington loop and returning to the opposite side of the
loop.
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Paul Terry

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On 2011\11\20 10:53, Paul Terry wrote:

I know the Kennington loop only connects with the west end side of the
northern line because back in the 60s and 70s I worked on it, will it
stay in service?

Almost certainly, as the proposed terminus of the extension at Battersea
is only two-track, which would not be sufficient for turning back the
full peak-time service of the CX branch.

Why not? Surely more trains are turned in the two-track terminus at Brixton.

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In message , Basil Jet
writes

On 2011\11\20 10:53, Paul Terry wrote:

I know the Kennington loop only connects with the west end side of the
northern line because back in the 60s and 70s I worked on it, will it
stay in service?

Almost certainly, as the proposed terminus of the extension at Battersea
is only two-track, which would not be sufficient for turning back the
full peak-time service of the CX branch.

Why not? Surely more trains are turned in the two-track terminus at Brixton.

I may have been unduly pessimistic. I've just seen that the Parsons
Brinckerhoff feasibility study into the Northern Line extension
estimates that the Battersea terminus could be capable of turning a
maximum of 28 trains per hour, which I think is the current peak service
on the CX branch (and on the Vic).

However, I doubt that the Kennington loop would be abandoned, as there
won't be the passenger demand for the full service to run to Battersea.
Most people will still want to change at Kennington in order to continue
south towards Clapham and beyond.
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Paul Terry

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In message , Paul Terry
writes
Almost certainly, as the proposed terminus of the extension at
Battersea is only two-track, which would not be sufficient for turning
back the full peak-time service of the CX branch. I don't think any
service pattern has yet been proposed, but I guess that it might well
involve alternates trains turning at Kennington and Battersea.

The four proposed routes (of which number 2 is the preferred option)
can be seen in:

http://northernlineextension.com/med...ons_lr_pages.p
d
f
Sorry but this link just gives me a 404.
--
Clive

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In message , Clive
writes

Sorry but this link just gives me a 404.

You need to include the last letter of the link, which was line-wrapped.
Here it is again, hopefully unwrapped this time:

http://northernlineextension.com/med...s_lr_pages.pdf

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Paul Terry

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In article ,
(Clive) wrote:

The four proposed routes (of which number 2 is the preferred option)
can be seen in:

http://northernlineextension.com/med...ns_lr_pages.pd
f
Sorry but this link just gives me a 404.

Did you miss that the last "f" was wrapped onto the next line?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In message , Paul Terry
writes
http://northernlineextension.com/med...ons_lr_pages.p
df
Thank you, I now have a much better grasp of what is happening.
--
Clive

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d;124354 Wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:38:12 -0800 (PST)
Jamie Thompson wrote:-
I've still not heard a good argument why someone would get off a fast
train at Clapham Junction to take a slow tube to Waterloo....where
that fast train was going anyway. Perhaps for the services going to-

Quite. The only reason clapham junction is busy is because its a
junction, its
not because anyone actually wants to visit that godforsaken dump. They
just
change trains there. What would be the point of a tube line going
there?

B2003

1) To relieve the pressure on Waterloo and Victoria at peak times.

2) To facilitate easier travel between the City and destinations served
via Clapham Junction.

3) To make it easier for people to visit the exceptionally good shops there,
including Debenhams, Waitrose, Jamie Oliver's Recipease, two branches of
Marks & Spencer, Moss Bros, and Waterstones.

4) To enable people to visit Northcote Road, Lavender Hill and St. John's
Hill to enjoy excellent bars and restaurants, traditional butchers, bakeries
and specialist delicatessens, antique shops and markets, jewellers and
organic stores.

If Boltar thinks that represents a 'godforsaken dump' I feel sorry for him.

Ian