Paul Terry wrote:
Not necessarily. People flying from T5 often get dropped off by car
at
one of the other terminals to save the long haul out around the M25.


On the other hand, people who are familiar with Heathrow will use the
Perimeter Road to access T5, neatly avoiding the M25.

In message , at 16:01:17 on
Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Graham Harrison
remarked:
So this is landside staff who have jobs in multiple terminals. Seems
like a small subset, being that far away from anything airside (and
most airlines only have check-in staff in one terminal).

Not everyone works for an airline.

Sure; there's all the landside shops and their supply chain. But are
they hopping around on the tube during working hours?

Furthermore, some airlines use handling agents whose staff work in
multiple terminals.

Those are the ones I expect the employers to lay on special transport
for.

Then add in cargo staff who may need to move from the Cargo terminal.
Commuting staff getting from car parks to places of work.

On the tube? Hatton Cross isn't in the free area.

--
Roland Perry

In message , at
15:28:28 on Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Neil Williams
remarked:
Why are the staff taking trains from one terminal to another? If
their
job requires moving around the airport I'd expect the employer to
provide an [airside] alternative.

Plenty of staff don't work airside. And they might arrive on a bus to
the central bus station and need to make a connection.

If it's their regular place of work wouldn't they get a bus direct to
the appropriate terminal?

Not everyone going to/from LHR uses HEx or a taxi. I've always thought
the free travel zone was aimed at that.

The ones who arrive by car at the wrong terminal need accommodating,
there's no denying that.
--
Roland Perry

On the tube? Hatton Cross isn't in the free area.

--
Roland Perry

No, although travel via it will be for tube journeys from T123 to T4.

on Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Matthew Dickinson
remarked:
On the tube? Hatton Cross isn't in the free area.

No, although travel via it will be for tube journeys from T123 to T4.

And very indirect. But the remark was aimed at potential free-travelling
airport employees, many of whose workplaces are actually near Hatton
Cross rather than the passenger terminals.
--
Roland Perry

On 29/12/2011 10:55, Graham Harrison wrote:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message
, at
18:40:27 on Wed, 28 Dec 2011, Matthew Dickinson
remarked:
One surprise in the 2012 fare revision is that the Piccadilly line
joins the Heathrow Free Travel Area.

See
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/20689....athrow-airport


"Journeys solely between Heathrow Terminals 123, Heathrow Terminal 4
and Heathrow Terminal 5 will be free for all Oyster card and Oyster
photocard holders"

And how many airline passengers have Oyster cards? Maybe they should
install vending machines in the baggage reclaim areas.
--
I thought that there was one just as you exit the baggage reclaim area.

On 29/12/2011 12:42, Recliner wrote:
wrote in message

In ,
(Paul Terry) wrote:

In , Roland Perry
writes

And how many airline passengers have Oyster cards?

Quite a few I would imagine, given the number of people living in
Greater London who have them and who might well be flying out of
Heathrow.

They will be the least likely to change from one terminal site to
another, surely?

Suppose someone arrives by bus to the central terminal area, but has a
flight leaving from T5 or T1. They can use HEx and HCon, but the Tube is
more frequent, and the central Tube station is closer to the bus
station.


Since the Free Travel applies to busses and the HEx or HCon, is there
any prospect of free travel between T4, T1,3 & T5 on the Underground?

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:39:48 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
If it's their regular place of work wouldn't they get a bus direct
to
the appropriate terminal?

There isn't necessarily one. Many don't serve T4 these days.

The ones who arrive by car at the wrong terminal need
accommodating,
there's no denying that.

And those who take buses that only serve the central bus station.

Neil

--
Neil Williams, Milton Keynes, UK

On 29/12/2011 17:39, Roland Perry wrote:

The ones who arrive by car at the wrong terminal need accommodating,
there's no denying that.

A few years ago I was driving to Heathrow to pick up my wife who was
arriving at T1 (I think) but heard on the traffic news that the whole of
the T123 area was grid-locked (which turned out to be true).
Fortunately I heard this just before entering the tunnel (which was also
jammed solid), so was just able divert via the perimeter road to T4. I
phoned my wife (who had by then landed) to tell her to take the Heathrow
Express to T4, as I knew that the HEX went there and was free, but the
tube might have been faster.

But a question: to get from T123 to T4 you have to change at Hatton
Cross don't you, as all trains go clockwise around the route. I presume
that's allowed free on the new Oyster-card arrangement?

--
Clive Page

In message , at 22:15:12 on Thu, 29 Dec
2011, Clive Page remarked:
But a question: to get from T123 to T4 you have to change at Hatton
Cross don't you, as all trains go clockwise around the route. I
presume that's allowed free on the new Oyster-card arrangement?

It says "journeys between", without ruling that out as a route, indeed
it's the only route.
--
Roland Perry