On Feb 24, 1:00*pm, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 24/02/2012 12:52, 77002 wrote:









On Feb 24, 12:31 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:25:14 +0000

Graeme *wrote:
Well some stations have a mix of subsurface and tube construction. *But
for the purposes of this arguement I would count them as different
stations.

Minor point - they're not different stations. Perhaps you think a basement
isn't part of the building thats sitting on top of it because one was dug
and the other was built?

B2003

Define "Station". *In my mind Waterloo is one station. *I catch
trains, from platforms, there. *However, Network Rail and TfL define
it as at least three stations, Waterloo Main, Waterloo East, and
Waterloo Underground.

Even normals would tend to differentiate Waterloo and Waterloo East.

Historically there could be said to be up to 6 different stations the

Waterloo LSWR
Waterloo SER
Waterloo & City Line
Bakerloo Line
Northern Line
Jubilee Line
Waterloo International

Not true. Firstly, your list of stations for which there were "up to
6" contains 7 stations. Secondly, you failed to include the Necropolis
Station, which increases the number of stations.

On Feb 25, 8:09*am, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On Feb 24, 1:00*pm, Graeme Wall wrote:



On 24/02/2012 12:52, 77002 wrote:

On Feb 24, 12:31 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:25:14 +0000

Graeme *wrote:
Well some stations have a mix of subsurface and tube construction. *But
for the purposes of this arguement I would count them as different
stations.

Minor point - they're not different stations. Perhaps you think a basement
isn't part of the building thats sitting on top of it because one was dug
and the other was built?

B2003

Define "Station". *In my mind Waterloo is one station. *I catch
trains, from platforms, there. *However, Network Rail and TfL define
it as at least three stations, Waterloo Main, Waterloo East, and
Waterloo Underground.

Even normals would tend to differentiate Waterloo and Waterloo East.

Historically there could be said to be up to 6 different stations the

Waterloo LSWR
Waterloo SER
Waterloo & City Line
Bakerloo Line
Northern Line
Jubilee Line
Waterloo International

Not true. Firstly, your list of stations for which there were "up to
6" contains 7 stations. Secondly, you failed to include the Necropolis
Station, which increases the number of stations.-

Was not the Windsor side once considered separate? I know that is now
the empty International Station. I am surprised that the Bakerloo and
Northern Line platforms are considered two stations. They are well
integrated. I believe Victoria is, or has been, considered three
stations. To me if it has platforms, and a name, it is a Station.
Although Kings Cross, Saint Pancras, and Kings Cross/Saint Pancras
(TfL) always caused me some mental somersaults.

"77002" wrote in message
...

I believe Victoria is, or has been, considered three stations. To me if it
has platforms, and a name, it is a Station.

You're with Lady Bracknell, then - "the line is immaterial, Mr Worthing", a
joke lost on modern audiences.

Regards

Jonathan

In article
,
(77002) wrote:

Not true. Firstly, your list of stations for which there were "up to
6" contains 7 stations. Secondly, you failed to include the Necropolis
Station, which increases the number of stations.-

Was not the Windsor side once considered separate? I know that is now
the empty International Station.

The International Station only partly replaced the Windsor side of Waterloo.
Platforms 16-19 were always part of the Windsor side.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Feb 25, 2:02*pm, wrote:
In article
,

(77002) wrote:
Not true. Firstly, your list of stations for which there were "up to
6" contains 7 stations. Secondly, you failed to include the Necropolis
Station, which increases the number of stations.-

Was not the Windsor side once considered separate? *I know that is now
the empty International Station.

The International Station only partly replaced the Windsor side of Waterloo.
Platforms 16-19 were always part of the Windsor side.

If my memory serves, and it has been a while: The Windsor Platforms
had a different style roof from the mainline side. It was this part
of the station that was dismantled in order to build the International
station. IIRC a signal box was also removed and the approaches
straightened.

"77002" wrote

If my memory serves, and it has been a while: The Windsor Platforms
had a different style roof from the mainline side. It was this part
of the station that was dismantled in order to build the International
station. IIRC a signal box was also removed and the approaches
straightened.

The 19th century North station was the last to be built before the whole
station was redeveloped in the early part of the 20th century. The roof of
this North station was in good condition, so was not replaced in the general
rebuilding. This then became the Windsor lines part of the station, and as
you say, was replaced when International was built.

Among other changes when International was built, the north Yard was
abolished, along with the hoist down to the W&C - so since then stock for
the W&C has to be caned in and out of the W&C Yard.

Peter

Peter

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:39:00 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:



"77002" wrote

If my memory serves, and it has been a while: The Windsor Platforms
had a different style roof from the mainline side. It was this part
of the station that was dismantled in order to build the International
station. IIRC a signal box was also removed and the approaches
straightened.

The 19th century North station was the last to be built before the whole
station was redeveloped in the early part of the 20th century. The roof of
this North station was in good condition, so was not replaced in the general
rebuilding. This then became the Windsor lines part of the station, and as
you say, was replaced when International was built.

Among other changes when International was built, the north Yard was
abolished, along with the hoist down to the W&C - so since then stock for
the W&C has to be caned in and out of the W&C Yard.

Won't a tawse do the job ?

In article ,
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:39:00 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:



"77002" wrote

If my memory serves, and it has been a while: The Windsor Platforms
had a different style roof from the mainline side. It was this part
of the station that was dismantled in order to build the International
station. IIRC a signal box was also removed and the approaches
straightened.

The 19th century North station was the last to be built before the whole
station was redeveloped in the early part of the 20th century. The roof of
this North station was in good condition, so was not replaced in the general
rebuilding. This then became the Windsor lines part of the station, and as
you say, was replaced when International was built.

Among other changes when International was built, the north Yard was
abolished, along with the hoist down to the W&C - so since then stock for
the W&C has to be caned in and out of the W&C Yard.

Won't a tawse do the job ?

I'm no stickin my hand out for a tawse that big.

Nick
--
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

On 25/02/2012 22:39, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:39:00 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:



wrote

If my memory serves, and it has been a while: The Windsor Platforms
had a different style roof from the mainline side. It was this part
of the station that was dismantled in order to build the International
station. IIRC a signal box was also removed and the approaches
straightened.

The 19th century North station was the last to be built before the whole
station was redeveloped in the early part of the 20th century. The roof of
this North station was in good condition, so was not replaced in the general
rebuilding. This then became the Windsor lines part of the station, and as
you say, was replaced when International was built.

Among other changes when International was built, the north Yard was
abolished, along with the hoist down to the W&C - so since then stock for
the W&C has to be caned in and out of the W&C Yard.

Won't a tawse do the job ?

We must have discipline.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

On Feb 25, 7:39*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"77002" wrote



If my memory serves, and it has been a while: The Windsor Platforms
had a different style roof from the mainline side. *It was this part
of the station that was dismantled in order to build the International
station. *IIRC a signal box was also removed and the approaches
straightened.

The 19th century North station was the last to be built before the whole
station was redeveloped in the early part of the 20th century. The roof of
this North station was in good condition, so was not replaced in the general
rebuilding. This then became the Windsor lines part of the station, and as
you say, was replaced when International was built.

Among other changes when International was built, the north Yard was
abolished, along with the hoist down to the W&C - so since then stock for
the W&C has to be caned in and out of the W&C Yard.

It is a pity the W&C cannot be extended to form a more useful thru
route. It might then have a proper depot, somewhere.