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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:53:07 +0100
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Excellent. We now have our very on dole scrounger on the group who can give
us reports from the frontline, watching jeremy kyle on his sofa.


Why do you revel in being such an epic ****?


Just trying to live down to your example.

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:31:40 +0100
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On 2012-08-06, Mizter T wrote:

On 06/08/2012 10:31, d wrote:
totally unnecessary rudeness from boltar snipped


Why do you revel in being such an epic ****?


He's always been like that, though this one represents a new extreme. I
think we should all conspire to ignore him.


Aww , have I upset da delicate ickle flowers on da gwoop? Diddums.

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On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:20:54 +0100, Robin9
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martin_petrov;132158 Wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 08:37:41 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:
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So the eastern end of the central line has been shut down twice now
during the Olympics for the usual pathetic excuses. Can Blunderground
go
for the hat-trick and win Olympic gold in the synchronised team
incompetance?-

I guess you've been saving "London Blunderground" up for this - you must

be gutted that all you've got is a couple of minor incidents that really

had zero impact on people getting to the games?


Zero impact? TfL were advising passengers to avoid both the Jubilee and

Central Lines and instead to go by District Line to West Ham . . . and
to
walk from there to the Olympic Park! Do you know how far that is? Do you

know how many elderly people were obliged to make that expedition?
Westfield Shopping Centre was closed to non Olympic people. A new,
major shopping precinct closed! Zero impact!


Go on then - please enlighten us with the stats about elderly people
walking the Greenway and the mass deprivation wrought on East London
because a shopping centre was closed for a few hours?

You'd think there were no other bloody shops in East London the way
people keep bringing up the "Westfield was closed" argument as some
example of armageddon.

The simple issue is that TfL have been encouraging people to use the
Greenway rather than overload Stratford. You can't blame them for
wanting to spread the load across a number of locations and also
across alternative services.

The facts as I understand them is that system usage has broken
previous records on a couple of days, overall the services have been
pretty reliable but there have been a few serious disruptions (Central
Line, District Line). Nonetheless people have managed to get to the
Park or venues - I have yet to hear or read of mass complaints and
moaning despite endless attempts by the media to generate them. The
plan was always to have contingency in place so that there was no over
reliance on a single link to Stratford.

I've used the bus to or through Stratford a few times and journey
times have been lower than usual because of less road congestion and
the bus station has functioned pretty well. So far so good but if you
wish to keep generating woe out of not much at all then please keep
going.
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What an elaborate decoy! No attempt to answer my question about the
distance people had to walk from West Ham Station. No attempt to quantify
the problems which caused TfL to recommend that people should abandon any
attempt to travel by Jubilee or Central Line.

Instead we get a fraudulent suggestion that "people keep bringing up" the
closing of Westfield. I'm not aware of anyone citing it apart from myself. Then
we have a pointless counter question. This is followed by an irrelevant Tfl
apologia: that they had already planned to use the West Ham/Greenway
escape route. So what? people who wanted to travel by Jubilee or Central Line
had by default chosen not to go via West Ham, and being suddenly obliged to use
a different route involving walking quite some way does not constitute zero impact.
And if TfL knew in advance that Stratford Station would not be able cope, why had
they not done something about it when rebuilding the station during the preceding years?
Finally we have a completely irrelevant paragraph about buses at Stratford Station
even though TfL had not recommended that people travel by bus as an alternative
to the Jubilee or Central Line.
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:04:59 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC)
martin_petrov wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 08:37:41 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:

So the eastern end of the central line has been shut down twice now
during the Olympics for the usual pathetic excuses. Can Blunderground
go for the hat-trick and win Olympic gold in the synchronised team
incompetance?


I guess you've been saving "London Blunderground" up for this - you must


No, I've used it here before. Google.


Well done you!


be gutted that all you've got is a couple of minor incidents that really
had zero impact on people getting to the games?


Zero impact? Yeah , right. If you think closing the main tube line to
the olympics has zero impact then why not shut it completely and save
some money?
Moron.


Not the "main tube line", merely one of MANY lines. Jubilee, National
Rail from Liverpool St, North London Line, Lea Valley Line, Javelin, and
a couple of DLR lines, with back up support from District, H&C and C2C.
They could have closed 3 lines and it probably wouldn't have caused any
great problem because THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN ADVANCE. A couple of
hours between 7 and 9 on Friday morning without the Central Line will
have prevented nobody from getting to the games on time.

Like I say, you must be GUTTED that the whole thing has been such a
massive success. And it's refreshing that you're still here acting the
prick when most cynics ahead of time are admitting they were completely
wide of the mark. (I'm sure you still believe you're right too, but of
course you're the one that's right, and everybody else is wrong)


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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:45:46 +0000 (UTC)
martin_petrov wrote:
No, I've used it here before. Google.


Well done you!


Not so you for not even being able to use it.

Zero impact? Yeah , right. If you think closing the main tube line to
the olympics has zero impact then why not shut it completely and save
some money?
Moron.


Not the "main tube line", merely one of MANY lines. Jubilee, National


No, the central line is the main tube line from central london.

a couple of DLR lines, with back up support from District, H&C and C2C.
They could have closed 3 lines and it probably wouldn't have caused any
great problem because THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN ADVANCE. A couple of
hours between 7 and 9 on Friday morning without the Central Line will
have prevented nobody from getting to the games on time.


Ooooo, they THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN ADVANCE did they? So what magic have
they weaved that means 3 closed lines would make no difference to
the throughput of passengers to stratford? Do tell because if they could use
the same magic during a normal rush hour it would solve all their problems!
Central line, jubilee line, district line goes down - no problem! Just ask
Meistro Petrov and he'll tell you how to get the same number of people around
london with 3 lines out of action.

Tell me, do you really believe the bull**** you write or do you work for TfLs
marketing dept?

Like I say, you must be GUTTED that the whole thing has been such a
massive success. And it's refreshing that you're still here acting the
prick when most cynics ahead of time are admitting they were completely
wide of the mark. (I'm sure you still believe you're right too, but of
course you're the one that's right, and everybody else is wrong)


I don't really give a toss whether its been a success or not. Its still cost
10 billion quid for a 2 weeks sports meet either way. Oh yeah, thats worth
every penny isn't it. I mean if Paris had won there's no chance of there being
the same wall to wall coverage on TV with the same number of gold medals won
by Team GB is there ... oh wait....

B2003

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 18:59:09 +0100
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Instead we get a fraudulent suggestion that "people keep bringing up"
the
closing of Westfield. I'm not aware of anyone citing it apart from
myself. Then
we have a pointless counter question. This is followed by an irrelevant
Tfl
apologia: that they had already planned to use the West Ham/Greenway
escape route. So what? people who wanted to travel by Jubilee or Central


Unfortunately the people who work (or worked) at TfL assume the rest of
the public is a dumb as them and so the sort of moronic arse covering
response you received will suffice.

B2003


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"Robin" wrote:
And despite all the anti-TfL ranting in this
thread, this was not in any way caused by TfL.


Who then please was responsible for the decision and for it being
communicated so late?


I find the frequent claim of lateness of notice odd. I knew for at least
the week before that it was going to be closed, and I know that it was
publicised before that.

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I find the frequent claim of lateness of notice odd. I knew for at
least the week before that it was going to be closed, and I know that
it was publicised before that.

Where did you learn so soon of the closure please? I ask as various
reports in the mainstream press I saw referred to 24 hours' notice;
retailers in Westfield were also quoted in trade journals as saying they
had found out only on Thursday 2 August; and John Lewis didn't warn me
I'd not be able to collect from them that weekend when I bought online
at the start of the week for collection in the Westfield store.

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On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:40:01 +0100, "Robin" wrote:

I find the frequent claim of lateness of notice odd. I knew for at
least the week before that it was going to be closed, and I know that
it was publicised before that.

Where did you learn so soon of the closure please? I ask as various
reports in the mainstream press I saw referred to 24 hours' notice;
retailers in Westfield were also quoted in trade journals as saying they
had found out only on Thursday 2 August; and John Lewis didn't warn me
I'd not be able to collect from them that weekend when I bought online
at the start of the week for collection in the Westfield store.


Just as an aside, why didn't you get Waitrose or Ocado to deliver?


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