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Charles Ellson wrote:

In fact is there a clear list anywhere of which pairs of stations
definitely
are and aren't valid through interchanges on a single ticket?


For Oyster :-
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...on_interchange


There are also "emergency OSIs" mentioned in :-
http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/out-of...terchange-osi/
(PVAL = passenger validator)


Thanks. I assume the regular ones are also valid for paper tickets?

I'm surprised that Aldgate & Aldgate East aren't a regular OSI - the number
of times that a Hammersmith & City train is nowhere to be seen would make
that a sensible route.

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:07:03 +0100, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
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Charles Ellson wrote:

In fact is there a clear list anywhere of which pairs of stations
definitely
are and aren't valid through interchanges on a single ticket?


For Oyster :-
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...on_interchange


There are also "emergency OSIs" mentioned in :-
http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/out-of...terchange-osi/
(PVAL = passenger validator)


Thanks. I assume the regular ones are also valid for paper tickets?

I suspect some of the permanent OSIs might be found in assorted
historic ticket inspectors' instructions. IIRC Kilburn High
Road/Kilburn Park and Kenton/Northwick Park (and the now West
Hampsteads?) feature in a 1938 LMS book.

I'm surprised that Aldgate & Aldgate East aren't a regular OSI - the number
of times that a Hammersmith & City train is nowhere to be seen would make
that a sensible route.

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Are there not a fair few stations in continental Europe which have a
"main" series of numbers for their "ordinary" platforms, say 1-14, and
have a couple of randomly chosen "high" numbers, say 41-42 for
platforms served by some oddball operation such as a tram-train run by
a different operator in an underground or semi-detached overground bit
of the station?

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gordonT wrote on 02 October 2012 20:34:48 ...
Are there not a fair few stations in continental Europe which have a
"main" series of numbers for their "ordinary" platforms, say 1-14, and
have a couple of randomly chosen "high" numbers, say 41-42 for
platforms served by some oddball operation such as a tram-train run by
a different operator in an underground or semi-detached overground bit
of the station?


Gare du Nord in Paris is like that. It has 1-21 for
regional/inter-city/international trains, 30-36 for suburban trains, and
below them 41-44 for the RER (Crossrail equivalent).

Gare de Lyon has the oddest platform numbering: the original train shed
has platforms A to N; a separate group of platforms is numbered 5 to 23,
odd numbers only.
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On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34:48 PM UTC+1, gordonT wrote:
Are there not a fair few stations in continental Europe which have a
"main" series of numbers for their "ordinary" platforms, say 1-14, and
have a couple of randomly chosen "high" numbers, say 41-42 for
platforms served by some oddball operation such as a tram-train run by
a different operator in an underground or semi-detached overground bit
of the station?

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Lausanne has platforms 1..9 and 70, the only thing different about 70 is it's a bay.
I don't think I've seen a higher platform number.


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On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:00:51 +0100, Charles Ellson
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:07:03 +0100, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:

Charles Ellson wrote:

In fact is there a clear list anywhere of which pairs of stations
definitely
are and aren't valid through interchanges on a single ticket?


For Oyster :-
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...on_interchange


There are also "emergency OSIs" mentioned in :-
http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/out-of...terchange-osi/
(PVAL = passenger validator)


Thanks. I assume the regular ones are also valid for paper tickets?

Not that I have tried it but if you use the single fare finder on the
TfL website, the same fares are quoted for e.g. North Wembley to
Watford (Met) as are quoted for Northwick Park to Watford (Met) and a
12-minute walk from Kenton to Northwick Park is shown as part of such
a journey when fed into the journey planner for a journey during
normal weekday operation. In practice a "paper ticket" is unlikely to
be used for this journey rather than Oyster or a Travelcard but other
examples could be different if e.g. only a single journey was being
made and the "cash" fare was less than Oyster/Travelcard.

For the cranks: TfL will both quote 1.50 UKP for Watford Junction to
Watford (Met) and show it in the journey planner with the walk from
Kenton to Northwick Park although the details will have to be manually
fed in to the planner because moving from the Oyster fares page
changes the Watford (Met) destination to "Highbury Barn/Ldn
Metropolitan".

I suspect some of the permanent OSIs might be found in assorted
historic ticket inspectors' instructions. IIRC Kilburn High
Road/Kilburn Park and Kenton/Northwick Park (and the now West
Hampsteads?) feature in a 1938 LMS book.

I'm surprised that Aldgate & Aldgate East aren't a regular OSI - the number
of times that a Hammersmith & City train is nowhere to be seen would make
that a sensible route.

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On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 03:07:03PM +0100, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
In fact is there a clear list anywhere of which pairs of stations
definitely
are and aren't valid through interchanges on a single ticket?

For Oyster :-
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...on_interchange

I'm surprised that Aldgate & Aldgate East aren't a regular OSI - the number
of times that a Hammersmith & City train is nowhere to be seen would make
that a sensible route.


I travel from Aldgate East westbound on the District line in the
evenings. There's an annoyingly frequent H&C line service! Perhaps
it's got more frequent since the teacupping and so an OSI isn't needed.

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