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"Nick Finnigan" wrote in message
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On 06/11/2012 13:56, tim..... wrote:


I would make an automated post payment system for registered cars the
default option, that way you wouldn't have to make sure that your


Do you mean 'automated post payment' the default for all cars (which is
infeasible), or only for 'registered cars' (which seems tautological?


I mean that it is the system that they "encourage" people to use as the
default.

I know there will be privacy freaks who will refuse to do so, but most
people will give up this small amount [1] of privacy for an easier life.

tim

[1] it's not like not registering for a payment method is going to stop HMG
collecting the details of where your car has been, all it does is makes it
very very slightly more difficult for them to identify a named individual as
the likely driver.


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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:37:21 +0000 (UTC), d
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I heard on LBC this morning that apparently the toll gates will be gone by
2014
and a "free flow" system will be implemented. How does this work? Is
everyone
who every uses the bridge going to have to by an electronic tag or will
they
just do it by number plate recognition and send you a bill for 2 quid in
the
post? Or will they use ANPR to send you a fine of 100 quid if you don't
buy a tag (no doubt expensive) and just drive through?

Will probably be a free for all for foreign registered vehicles and
trucks.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_road_tolling


which implies that "leakage" might be be tolerated as being cheaper than
100% collection

This would be fine if the leakage is random, but IMHO it bloody well isn't
if it is systematically based upon country of registration

http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio...ling_20080814/


And that's just about collecting the number plate IDs, not the money

tim


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