In article ,
d wrote:
If they're stabling trains there then they must be maintaining the track
to a certain level anyway but I take your point about the rest of the
station. Though a branch line to charing-x would have been quite useful IMO.

Not at the cost of a reduced service to Stratford, IMO: and that's
what would happen. Every train you turn round at Charing X wouldn't
go to points east.

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:52:24 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
If they're stabling trains there then they must be maintaining the track
to a certain level anyway but I take your point about the rest of the
station. Though a branch line to charing-x would have been quite useful IMO.

Not at the cost of a reduced service to Stratford, IMO: and that's
what would happen. Every train you turn round at Charing X wouldn't
go to points east.

I suspect the majority of people going southeast from the stanmore end are
heading into the west end or city so will have got off before the JLE anyway.
It would only need to be 1 train every 10 minutes or so to Charing X to be
useful and for every one of those you turn a westbound one from stratford
early. They manage a far more complex service on other lines.

B2003

In article ,
d wrote:
I suspect the majority of people going southeast from the stanmore end are
heading into the west end or city so will have got off before the JLE anyway.
It would only need to be 1 train every 10 minutes or so to Charing X to be
useful and for every one of those you turn a westbound one from stratford
early.

Where?

They manage a far more complex service on other lines.

True; but I'm not arguing it's impossible. I'm arguing it would lead to
a worse service overall.


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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:31:28 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
I suspect the majority of people going southeast from the stanmore end are
heading into the west end or city so will have got off before the JLE anyway.
It would only need to be 1 train every 10 minutes or so to Charing X to be
useful and for every one of those you turn a westbound one from stratford
early.

Where?

I dunno. I'm sure there are some crossovers at westminster or london bridge.

They manage a far more complex service on other lines.

True; but I'm not arguing it's impossible. I'm arguing it would lead to
a worse service overall.

Not if done properly. Mind you , this is LU so thats a big ask.

B2003

On 08/11/2012 09:36, d wrote:

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:31:28 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:

In article ,
d wrote:
I suspect the majority of people going southeast from the stanmore end are
heading into the west end or city so will have got off before the JLE anyway.
It would only need to be 1 train every 10 minutes or so to Charing X to be
useful and for every one of those you turn a westbound one from stratford
early.

Where?

I dunno. I'm sure there are some crossovers at westminster or london bridge.

You dunno then.

The line when extended was not designed to have an operative branch (for
public services) off to Charing Cross.


They manage a far more complex service on other lines.

True; but I'm not arguing it's impossible. I'm arguing it would lead to
a worse service overall.

Not if done properly. Mind you , this is LU so thats a big ask.

The Jubilee line needs all the capacity it can get to the east.

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:00:52 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
On 08/11/2012 09:36, d wrote:

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:31:28 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:

In article ,
d wrote:
I suspect the majority of people going southeast from the stanmore end are
heading into the west end or city so will have got off before the JLE
anyway.
It would only need to be 1 train every 10 minutes or so to Charing X to be
useful and for every one of those you turn a westbound one from stratford
early.

Where?

I dunno. I'm sure there are some crossovers at westminster or london bridge.

You dunno then.

Apparently theres one at waterloo. Perfect.

http://www.districtdavesforum.co.uk/...=display&threa
d=10892

The line when extended was not designed to have an operative branch (for
public services) off to Charing Cross.

The crossovers allow it.

The Jubilee line needs all the capacity it can get to the east.

From london bridge sure, from Stanmore? No so sure.

B2003

wrote:
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:00:52 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
On 08/11/2012 09:36, d wrote:

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:31:28 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:

In article ,
d wrote:
I suspect the majority of people going southeast from the stanmore end are
heading into the west end or city so will have got off before the JLE
anyway.
It would only need to be 1 train every 10 minutes or so to Charing X to be
useful and for every one of those you turn a westbound one from stratford
early.

Where?

I dunno. I'm sure there are some crossovers at westminster or london bridge.

You dunno then.

Apparently theres one at waterloo. Perfect.

http://www.districtdavesforum.co.uk/...=display&threa
d=10892

The line when extended was not designed to have an operative branch (for
public services) off to Charing Cross.

The crossovers allow it.

The Jubilee line needs all the capacity it can get to the east.

From london bridge sure, from Stanmore? No so sure.

I'm guessing that the busiest section is between Green Park and Canary
Wharf.

d wrote:

I dunno. I'm sure there are some crossovers at westminster or london
bridge.

You dunno then.

Apparently theres one at waterloo. Perfect.

http://www.districtdavesforum.co.uk/...thread=1089 2

When the JLE originally opened it was operated as a shuttle service from
Stratford for the first six months or so, steadily extended towards the
centre, with Westminster the last link in the chain.

The line when extended was not designed to have an operative branch (for
public services) off to Charing Cross.

The crossovers allow it.

Do they allow it easily with a through service running at the same time? Or
are they just still there for end of day turning and engineer works?

The Jubilee line needs all the capacity it can get to the east.

From london bridge sure, from Stanmore? No so sure.

Traffic on it's certainly quite high between Green Park and Westminster and
reducing the frequency on that link in the chain would be chaotic.

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