In article , d
() wrote:

On 23 Jul 2013 12:23:05 GMT
Neil Williams wrote:
wrote:

They're used like that all over europe (in plenty of cities with narrow
streets I might add) without the issues the cycling lobby and Boris
claimed they had in london. So either the europeans are all idiots or
someone was telling porkies to further their own agenda.

Many other European cities with them have better dedicated cycle
infrastructure rather than having them in bus lanes. Two types of
vehicle less compatible with one another are hard to imagine.

When cyclists pay road tax for their bikes then they can have a say in how
the roads are laid out and what they share them with. Until then they can
put up or shut up.

There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles pay no
more than cycles to be put on the road.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 12:42:43
on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, remarked:
When cyclists pay road tax for their bikes then they can have a say in how
the roads are laid out and what they share them with. Until then they can
put up or shut up.

There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles pay no
more than cycles to be put on the road.

When was VAT on new cars scrapped?
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Roland Perry

On 23/07/2013 18:56, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:42:43
on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, remarked:
When cyclists pay road tax for their bikes then they can have a say
in how
the roads are laid out and what they share them with. Until then they
can
put up or shut up.

There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles
pay no
more than cycles to be put on the road.

When was VAT on new cars scrapped?

Same time as it was on bikes?

So, are we ready to discuss the number of pubs built with beer tax yet?
(discussion of telephone technology and local government in Peterborough
to follow).

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:56:54 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles pay
no more than cycles to be put on the road.

When was VAT on new cars scrapped?

VAT on bicycles is exactly the same as VAT on new cars. 20%.

There are bicycles out there on which the purchaser would pay a
considerably higher amount of VAT than they could on a new car.

"James Heaton" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:43:29 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
won't happen. For the time being we're lumbered with the things.

On a related note, does anyone know where all the Bendy buses ended up? I
know
some went to Malta but where did the rest end up - scrap or slogging it
out
in some provicial towns?

Some are on the Park and Ride in Norwich, with Konect of Dereham. Can be
seen daily on the Costessey Park and Ride - 605 i think - 60-something
definitely!

604!

Passed one on the A47 today.

James

On 23/07/2013 15:29, d wrote:

On 23 Jul 2013 14:19:50 GMT
Neil Williams wrote:
wrote:

When cyclists pay road tax for their bikes then they can have a say in how
the roads are laid out and what they share them with. Until then they can
put up or shut up.

What a stupid statement, given that getting the cyclists out of your way
(as a driver or bus passenger) would also be to your benefit.

They'd also be out of my way if they were on motorbikes. Perhaps we shouldn't
bother taxing and insuring those either then eh?

Cyclists pay sod all to use their bikes on the roads therefore their opinions
are irrelevant.

Moronic.

A gross over-statement. A small minority of motor vehicles pay no or very
little excise duty. The vast majority are not exempt.

Spud has not argued against separating cyclists from other road users. He has
said they they should not participate in deciding how this should be done.

As you seem to be on the side of cyclists, perhaps you can explain something
to me. Why is that cyclists prefer to cycle down main roads instead of quiet
residential roads and back streets?

A clever debating ploy but a fraudulent one. Tax payers are not involved in or
obliged to pay for building pubs. They are obliged to pay for road building and
maintenance. They are also obliged to pay the ancillary, consequential costs
of both motoring and drinking. Therefore both should be taxed.

In message , at 10:06:21 on Wed, 24
Jul 2013, Robin9 remarked:
There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles pay
no
more than cycles to be put on the road.

A gross over-statement. A small minority of motor vehicles pay no or
very
little excise duty. The vast majority are not exempt.

And unless there are lots of bikes costing £5k, then the majority of
drivers paid more VAT than the cyclists, when the items were new.
--
Roland Perry