On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:46:13 +0100, "tim......"
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On 05/12/2013 10:46, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 05/12/2013 10:16, Sam Wilson wrote:

I had to look up "passimeter"...

In LT/TfL's case they were electrically operated but the principal was
the same.

http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r152.html has a description of
the system.

Thanks for the link.

"The "Rapid" machine ... prints, cuts and delivers the ticket, and can
issue four a second."

A trick that modern TVMs seem to have forgotten.

I'm sure that they can manage a 4 second delivery time


That would be four tickets in one second, not four seconds to deliver
one ticket. Which is about what the TVMs take in SWT territory. To
buy and print a return pair with a receipt takes a while. The
cheerful chappy at the window does much better. :-)
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On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 22:06:24 -0800, Aurora wrote:
That would be four tickets in one second, not four seconds to
deliver
one ticket. Which is about what the TVMs take in SWT territory. To
buy and print a return pair with a receipt takes a while. The
cheerful chappy at the window does much better. :-)

It would speed things up if they stopped issuing card receipts by
default. Most people just bin them these days. Could still be a
selectable option.

Neil

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On 06/12/2013 09:11, Neil Williams wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 22:06:24 -0800, Aurora wrote:
That would be four tickets in one second, not four seconds to
deliver
one ticket. Which is about what the TVMs take in SWT territory. To
buy and print a return pair with a receipt takes a while. The
cheerful chappy at the window does much better. :-)

It would speed things up if they stopped issuing card receipts by
default. Most people just bin them these days. Could still be a
selectable option.


May be a legal or commercial requirement.


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On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 16:44:15 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:
May be a legal or commercial requirement.

I did wonder, though my local Co-op asks if you want a card receipt
and doesn't print one if not. An option might be to add a cheap till
receipt printer.

Neil

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On 06/12/2013 17:13, Neil Williams wrote:
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 16:44:15 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:
May be a legal or commercial requirement.

I did wonder, though my local Co-op asks if you want a card receipt and
doesn't print one if not. An option might be to add a cheap till receipt
printer.

Not sure how that would help, adds complication to the machinery and as
sure as eggs is eggs someone on here will moan that they should do it
all with one machine as they do in
Switzerland/France/Japan/Germany/Middlesbrough.


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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:18:52 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:
Not sure how that would help

By being able to print at the same time as the tickets.

Switzerland/France/Japan/Germany/Middlesbrough.

SBB's machines are *very* slow. They seem to use multiple paper rolls
and one printer, switching the rolls mechanically from tickets to
receipts, taking several seconds.

Neil

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