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Fatality at Balham?
Male person, scene treated as a crime scene by BTP and body not
recovered until 1300 approx. The lack of a contingency plan by SCT for the main lines being closed during the peaks meant services ran up to 180 mins late! Which once again highlights how bloody disgraceful it is that nowadays the police are permitted to cause disruption on such a scale to the general public. Perhaps they should be forced to compensate all of those caught up in their incompetence (as everyone else seems to be expected to these days) - that might focus their minds to get the job done more quickly. Bearing in mind that this incident allegedly occurred at around 01:00 the railway should have been cleared and open for operation by 05:00 at the latest. Which would give people wanting to kill people / dispose of bodies a very good reason to do so on the railways. "Oh, it'll be OK - the police only have 4 hours to investigate this scene and pick up all the forensics, so they'll never connect it to us". Surely when investigating a crime, the police should be given all the time that they need. |
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"Matt Ashby" wrote in message m... Surely when investigating a crime, the police should be given all the time that they need. So why then when a road accident occurs they clear things up much quicker? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 03/02/2004 |
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:38:19 -0000, "DJO" djdublo att liamtoh dott
moc wrote: "Matt Ashby" wrote in message om... Surely when investigating a crime, the police should be given all the time that they need. So why then when a road accident occurs they clear things up much quicker? Because in a road accident the perpetrator is normally one of the drivers involved and generally still present at the scene, with tyre marks on the road/dents in the car/other witnesses present, all of which make working out what happened quite easy. Suspect that in a one-under or similar rail accident it's quite a bit harder to work out what happened and no easy-collectible evidence (no dented cars or tyre marks to photograph). I'd have thought you could show a little more compassion for the victim, it's not like this happens every day. Reserve your vitriol for real incompetences like cracked rails. |
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it's not like this happens every day.
pedant Actually, on average (according to BTP statistics), it does /pedant -- To reply direct, remove NOSPAM and replace with railwaysonline For Train Information, The Latest News & Best photos around check out the Award Winning Railways Online at http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk "Hating Thames Trains since 2003" |
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Hardly vitriol! Look at the news today, sadly some poeple died in a road
accident near Liverpool, which is a tragic thing to happen, but the only picture availble on the TV news was that of skid marks on a road even though the time between the accident happening and the TV crews arriving would in all probablility been shorter than the length of time the police took to investigate at Balham. On the roads it seems whn a tragedy happens it is cleared up a.s.a.p, on the railways there is no similar hurry. Maybe my perceptions of these things is wrong, and if so I shall stand corrected, but don't accuse me of vitriol, thanks. It is often all to easy to tell exactly what happened in a suicide by train, the driver is often in these cases the only poor soul to witness the person throwing themselves in front of his train. Even in situations where a road is closed due some tragic situation, the police can divert cars round side roads etc. You cannot easily do that in trains, perhap they should bear that in mind? Or am I being unreasonable? Djo "Pat Duffy" wrote in message news So why then when a road accident occurs they clear things up much quicker? Because in a road accident the perpetrator is normally one of the drivers involved and generally still present at the scene, with tyre marks on the road/dents in the car/other witnesses present, all of which make working out what happened quite easy. Suspect that in a one-under or similar rail accident it's quite a bit harder to work out what happened and no easy-collectible evidence (no dented cars or tyre marks to photograph). I'd have thought you could show a little more compassion for the victim, it's not like this happens every day. Reserve your vitriol for real incompetences like cracked rails. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 03/02/2004 |
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"DJO" djdublo att liamtoh dott moc wrote in message
... "Matt Ashby" wrote in message m... Surely when investigating a crime, the police should be given all the time that they need. So why then when a road accident occurs they clear things up much quicker? They aren't. Up here in the Midlands its quite common for roads (I'm talking major commuter routes, not country lanes) to be closed through the morning rush hour following fatal RTA's in the early hours. Jeff. |
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"Jeff McGhie" wrote in message ... So why then when a road accident occurs they clear things up much quicker? They aren't. Up here in the Midlands its quite common for roads (I'm talking major commuter routes, not country lanes) to be closed through the morning rush hour following fatal RTA's in the early hours. Only car-on-car. Remember train crashes often see the line closed for days. Pedestrian killings are regularly mopped up and ignored within an hour or two. Richard |
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 21:57:19 -0000 someone who may be "Richard"
wrote this:- Only car-on-car. Remember train crashes often see the line closed for days. It now seems to be weeks. Pedestrian killings are regularly mopped up and ignored within an hour or two. That's easy. The police blame the pedestrian and don't want to inconvenience the really important motorists. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. |
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David Hansen wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 21:57:19 -0000 someone who may be "Richard" wrote this:- Only car-on-car. Remember train crashes often see the line closed for days. It now seems to be weeks. Care to give an example? And don't try Great Heck, because a friend of mine was duty Railtrack officer there, and I know what they were looking for, where they had to look, and what they found. It's not pretty. Bear in mind as well that roads are hard to damage and can quickly be patched up if they are damaged. Neither is true of railway lines, particularly where pointwork or overhead are concerened. Ian |
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