One faulty train at Hoxton has knocked out the entire Highbury-New
Cross-Clapham-West Croydon-Crystal Place network.

E.

. . . which suggests that they need a turn-round capability or two elsewhere
on the line. As trains run at about six minutes intervals on that stretch, this
would involve very smart working. My guess is that L.O. will consider it more
trouble than it's worth.

On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 10:21:13 +0100
Robin9 wrote:
'eastender[_5_ Wrote:
;147051']One faulty train at Hoxton has knocked out the entire
Highbury-New
Cross-Clapham-West Croydon-Crystal Place network.

E.

. . . which suggests that they need a turn-round capability or two
elsewhere
on the line. As trains run at about six minutes intervals on that
stretch, this
would involve very smart working. My guess is that L.O. will consider it
more
trouble than it's worth.

How much hassle it is for them should be irrelevant. Convenience for the
travelling public should be their first and foremost priority. But thats
obviously in an ideal world, the real world where people can't be arsed is
another matter.

--
Spud

wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 10:21:13 +0100
Robin9 wrote:
'eastender[_5_ Wrote:
;147051']One faulty train at Hoxton has knocked out the entire
Highbury-New
Cross-Clapham-West Croydon-Crystal Place network.

E.

. . . which suggests that they need a turn-round capability or two
elsewhere
on the line. As trains run at about six minutes intervals on that
stretch, this
would involve very smart working. My guess is that L.O. will consider it
more
trouble than it's worth.

How much hassle it is for them should be irrelevant. Convenience for the
travelling public should be their first and foremost priority. But thats
obviously in an ideal world, the real world where people can't be arsed is
another matter.

It would probably be more useful to either reduce the chances of a fault
grounding a train, or making it easier for another train to rescue it.

d wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 10:21:13 +0100
Robin9 wrote:
'eastender[_5_ Wrote:
;147051']One faulty train at Hoxton has knocked out the entire
Highbury-New
Cross-Clapham-West Croydon-Crystal Place network.

E.

. . . which suggests that they need a turn-round capability or two
elsewhere
on the line. As trains run at about six minutes intervals on that
stretch, this
would involve very smart working. My guess is that L.O. will
consider it more
trouble than it's worth.

How much hassle it is for them should be irrelevant. Convenience for
the travelling public should be their first and foremost priority.
But thats obviously in an ideal world, the real world where people
can't be arsed is another matter.

I had assumed that "trouble" was shorthand for "significant works
requiring corresponding funds for both capital and on-going, current
expenditure". If so, I am one London taxpayer and traveller who is glad
they don't take a "money no object" approach.
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:50:34 -0000
"Robin" wrote:
wrote:
How much hassle it is for them should be irrelevant. Convenience for
the travelling public should be their first and foremost priority.
But thats obviously in an ideal world, the real world where people
can't be arsed is another matter.

I had assumed that "trouble" was shorthand for "significant works
requiring corresponding funds for both capital and on-going, current
expenditure". If so, I am one London taxpayer and traveller who is glad
they don't take a "money no object" approach.

If there are no sets of reversing points between new cross and dalston
junction them someone ****ed up badly in the track design and they need to
put some in in case this sort of thing happens again.

--
Spud

wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:50:34 -0000
"Robin" wrote:
d wrote:
How much hassle it is for them should be irrelevant. Convenience for
the travelling public should be their first and foremost priority.
But thats obviously in an ideal world, the real world where people
can't be arsed is another matter.

I had assumed that "trouble" was shorthand for "significant works
requiring corresponding funds for both capital and on-going, current
expenditure". If so, I am one London taxpayer and traveller who is glad
they don't take a "money no object" approach.

If there are no sets of reversing points between new cross and dalston
junction them someone ****ed up badly in the track design and they need to
put some in in case this sort of thing happens again.

I think there's crossovers at Shadwell and Canada Water.

On 03/03/2015 18:31, eastender wrote:
One faulty train at Hoxton has knocked out the entire Highbury-New
Cross-Clapham-West Croydon-Crystal Place network.


I received the following email from TfL this afternoon, with the subject
of"London Overground services yesterday evening":

---quote---
Dear Mizter T,

I am writing to apologise for the major disruption to London Overground
services yesterday evening, Tuesday 3 March.

Our services were significantly disrupted by a southbound train failure
at Hoxton on the Highbury & Islington to Clapham Junction line. As a
result, many trains were cancelled or delayed.

We are examining the train to find the root cause of the failure and
what can be done to prevent such significant disruption happening again.

As this fault was within our control, you can apply for a service delay
refund. You must do this within the next 13 days. For more information,
please visit tfl.gov.uk/refunds


Yours sincerely,
Mike Stubbs
Director London Overground, Transport for London
---quote---

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:

On 03/03/2015 18:31, eastender wrote:
One faulty train at Hoxton has knocked out the entire Highbury-New
Cross-Clapham-West Croydon-Crystal Place network.

I received the following email from TfL this afternoon, with the
subject of"London Overground services yesterday evening":

---quote---
Dear Mizter T,

I am writing to apologise for the major disruption to London
Overground services yesterday evening, Tuesday 3 March.

Our services were significantly disrupted by a southbound train
failure at Hoxton on the Highbury & Islington to Clapham Junction
line. As a result, many trains were cancelled or delayed.

We are examining the train to find the root cause of the failure and
what can be done to prevent such significant disruption happening
again.

As this fault was within our control, you can apply for a service
delay refund. You must do this within the next 13 days. For more
information, please visit tfl.gov.uk/refunds


Yours sincerely,
Mike Stubbs
Director London Overground, Transport for London
---quote---

How did they know you were affected? Did you email them?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:

In article , (Mizter
T) wrote:

On 03/03/2015 18:31, eastender wrote:
One faulty train at Hoxton has knocked out the entire Highbury-New
Cross-Clapham-West Croydon-Crystal Place network.

I received the following email from TfL this afternoon, with the
subject of"London Overground services yesterday evening":

---quote---
Dear Mizter T,

I am writing to apologise for the major disruption to London
Overground services yesterday evening, Tuesday 3 March.

Our services were significantly disrupted by a southbound train
failure at Hoxton on the Highbury & Islington to Clapham Junction
line. As a result, many trains were cancelled or delayed.

We are examining the train to find the root cause of the failure
and what can be done to prevent such significant disruption
happening again.

As this fault was within our control, you can apply for a service
delay refund. You must do this within the next 13 days. For more
information, please visit tfl.gov.uk/refunds


Yours sincerely,
Mike Stubbs
Director London Overground, Transport for London
---quote---

How did they know you were affected? Did you email them?

I assume it is based on Oyster records?

Peter Smyth