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The virtual electric double deck trial, using induction charging,
should start on route 69 in October. The charging kit has definitely
been installed at Walthamstow, not sure about Canning Town as I
haven't been down there for a while.


Is that the same kit used in MK? It's the first other example I've seen
of it. Personally I think it's a gimmick and a plug-in cable would do
the job just as well, particularly in London where the driver doesn't
carry cash so will not have that risk if he gets out of the cab to plug in.


Why have the hassle of plugging in a heavy, probably high voltage, high
current cable


In the pouring rain

when the bus can be charged effortlessly and safely using
inductive charging? There's no cable or plug/socket to get damaged.

My phone and toothbrush have it, so why not the bus?


But a slight difference in the amount of power being transferred I
think. Not just literally between a toothbrush and a bus, but the degree
to which one can scale the engineering.
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septem
ber.org, at 20:05:32 on Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Recliner remarked:
The virtual electric double deck trial, using induction charging,
should start on route 69 in October. The charging kit has definitely
been installed at Walthamstow, not sure about Canning Town as I
haven't been down there for a while.

Is that the same kit used in MK? It's the first other example I've seen
of it. Personally I think it's a gimmick and a plug-in cable would do
the job just as well, particularly in London where the driver doesn't
carry cash so will not have that risk if he gets out of the cab to plug in.


Why have the hassle of plugging in a heavy, probably high voltage, high
current cable


In the pouring rain

when the bus can be charged effortlessly and safely using
inductive charging? There's no cable or plug/socket to get damaged.

My phone and toothbrush have it, so why not the bus?


But a slight difference in the amount of power being transferred I think.
Not just literally between a toothbrush and a bus, but the degree to
which one can scale the engineering.


"HaloIPT supplied its revolutionary induction charging technology for
102EX, the Rolls Royce Phantom Experimental Electric vehicle, revealed on 2
March at the Geneva Motor Show."

From http://www.arup.com/Homepage_ElectricTransport.aspx
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er.org, at 20:22:44 on Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:
when the bus can be charged effortlessly and safely using
inductive charging? There's no cable or plug/socket to get damaged.

My phone and toothbrush have it, so why not the bus?


But a slight difference in the amount of power being transferred I think.
Not just literally between a toothbrush and a bus, but the degree to
which one can scale the engineering.


"HaloIPT supplied its revolutionary induction charging technology for
102EX, the Rolls Royce Phantom Experimental Electric vehicle, revealed on 2
March at the Geneva Motor Show."

From http://www.arup.com/Homepage_ElectricTransport.aspx


"Two of these small Citroen C1 electric vehicles are currently
participating in the Arup-led CABLED electric vehicle evaluation
programme in the West Midlands."
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septemb
er.org, at 20:22:44 on Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Recliner remarked:
when the bus can be charged effortlessly and safely using
inductive charging? There's no cable or plug/socket to get damaged.

My phone and toothbrush have it, so why not the bus?

But a slight difference in the amount of power being transferred I think.
Not just literally between a toothbrush and a bus, but the degree to
which one can scale the engineering.


"HaloIPT supplied its revolutionary induction charging technology for
102EX, the Rolls Royce Phantom Experimental Electric vehicle, revealed on 2
March at the Geneva Motor Show."

From http://www.arup.com/Homepage_ElectricTransport.aspx


"Two of these small Citroen C1 electric vehicles are currently
participating in the Arup-led CABLED electric vehicle evaluation
programme in the West Midlands."


Yup, what of it?
CABLED (Coventry and Birmingham Low Emission Demonstrators) Consortium
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er.org, at 20:48:24 on Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:
when the bus can be charged effortlessly and safely using
inductive charging? There's no cable or plug/socket to get damaged.

My phone and toothbrush have it, so why not the bus?

But a slight difference in the amount of power being transferred I think.
Not just literally between a toothbrush and a bus, but the degree to
which one can scale the engineering.

"HaloIPT supplied its revolutionary induction charging technology for
102EX, the Rolls Royce Phantom Experimental Electric vehicle, revealed on 2
March at the Geneva Motor Show."

From http://www.arup.com/Homepage_ElectricTransport.aspx


"Two of these small Citroen C1 electric vehicles are currently
participating in the Arup-led CABLED electric vehicle evaluation
programme in the West Midlands."


Yup, what of it?


The difference in size of vehicle.
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septemb
er.org, at 20:48:24 on Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Recliner remarked:
when the bus can be charged effortlessly and safely using
inductive charging? There's no cable or plug/socket to get damaged.

My phone and toothbrush have it, so why not the bus?

But a slight difference in the amount of power being transferred I think.
Not just literally between a toothbrush and a bus, but the degree to
which one can scale the engineering.

"HaloIPT supplied its revolutionary induction charging technology for
102EX, the Rolls Royce Phantom Experimental Electric vehicle, revealed on 2
March at the Geneva Motor Show."

From http://www.arup.com/Homepage_ElectricTransport.aspx

"Two of these small Citroen C1 electric vehicles are currently
participating in the Arup-led CABLED electric vehicle evaluation
programme in the West Midlands."


Yup, what of it?


The difference in size of vehicle.


More relevant was the Rolls Royce Phantom which I quoted. Its batteries are
probably as big as a bus's.
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More relevant was the Rolls Royce Phantom which I quoted. Its batteries are
probably as big as a bus's.


How much does the installation cost and how quickly does it recharge the
batteries?
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:38:29 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
More relevant was the Rolls Royce Phantom which I quoted. Its batteries are
probably as big as a bus's.


I doubt it. On the youtube video of one of the BYD buses it says the
batteries weigh 3 tons.

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On 2015-07-16 20:15:10 +0000, Roland Perry said:

Why have the hassle of plugging in a heavy, probably high voltage, high
current cable


In the pouring rain


Doesn't seem to be a problem for electric cars.

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Neil Williams wrote:
On 2015-07-16 20:15:10 +0000, Roland Perry said:

Why have the hassle of plugging in a heavy, probably high voltage, high
current cable
In the pouring rain


Doesn't seem to be a problem for electric cars.


http://www.egvi.eu/projects/13/38/UNPLUGGED-Inductive-charging-for-Electric-Vehicles-February-2014


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