On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:41:50 +0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk...train-arrives/

Claire Perry is really churning out those "I welcome these new trains..."
press releases this week.

It reminds me of the Class 70.

Is there some kind of serious buffer underneath the fibreglass?

What's the significance of the numbering been in the 700s?

On 31.07.15 17:02, Recliner wrote:
" wrote:
On 31.07.15 15:41, Recliner wrote:
http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk...train-arrives/

Claire Perry is really churning out those "I welcome these new trains..."
press releases this week.


Will the ATO on them be operative when they enter revenue service?

It may be on the trains, but I don't think the new signalling will be live
in the TL core next year.


I did not think so. ETA?

" wrote:
On 31.07.15 17:02, Recliner wrote:
" wrote:
On 31.07.15 15:41, Recliner wrote:
http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk...train-arrives/

Claire Perry is really churning out those "I welcome these new trains..."
press releases this week.


Will the ATO on them be operative when they enter revenue service?

It may be on the trains, but I don't think the new signalling will be live
in the TL core next year.


I did not think so. ETA?

Probably 2018:

David states: “By using ATO, with the underlying Automatic Train Protection
(ATP) provided by ETCS, the core section will safely support trains passing
at 2.5min headways, and enable service recovery mode with headways of just
two minutes, when necessary. However, the technology must first undergo an
extensive period of testing.

“This is the first time ATO will be used with ETCS, or indeed on any
mainline in this country, so there has been a lot of work to reach this
stage. It is vital that we get this right.

“There are a lot of system integration aspects to consider, such as with
the new rolling stock that will be introduced from 2016. So whilst we will
commence technology testing with a Class 313 test train in March, we will
not get to test with the Class 700, the train being built for Thameslink,
until next year.�

This means that the switch to ATO will not take place until late 2017 at
the earliest. However, it will be in place for the programme’s completion
in 2018, which is when the five-year rebuild of London Bridge also comes to
a close.

______

http://rail.ricardo.com/en/Blogs/Art...ink-signalling

In message
-septem
ber.org, at 14:41:50 on Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:
http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk...train-arrives/

Claire Perry is really churning out those "I welcome these new trains..."
press releases this week.

4 cars, when I thought 700's were going to be in fixed 8 and 12 car
formations.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message

-september.
org, at 14:41:50 on Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:

http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk...g-future-as-ne
w-thameslink-train-arrives/

Claire Perry is really churning out those "I welcome these new trains..."
press releases this week.

4 cars, when I thought 700's were going to be in fixed 8 and 12 car
formations.

Yes! I looked at the pictures and wondered where the other cars were

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septem
ber.org, at 14:41:50 on Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Recliner remarked:
http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk...train-arrives/

Claire Perry is really churning out those "I welcome these new trains..."
press releases this week.

4 cars, when I thought 700's were going to be in fixed 8 and 12 car formations.

It's a 12-car train, delivered in three sets of four. They couldn't run as
an independent train that way.

In message , at 02:30:21
on Sat, 1 Aug 2015, remarked:

4 cars, when I thought 700's were going to be in fixed 8 and 12 car
formations.

Yes! I looked at the pictures and wondered where the other cars were

I suppose if they want to use it for testing, a short-formed one is
going to be almost as good as a regular one.

As for the mystery of why GN's Connections magazine thinks 700's will be
running to Kings Lynn, some exchanges on Twitter, and a lot of reading
between the lines, suggests that when they say:

"we will begin to introduce them on the London King’s Cross to
Cambridge, King’s Lynn and Peterborough routes later [in 2016]"

For the Kings Lynn trains they mean "the handful a day which are
currently 8-car 365's". The 377's will therefore arrive later, perhaps
after a delayed cascade from Thameslink due to issues with deploying
700's on that route.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 02:30:21
on Sat, 1 Aug 2015, remarked:

4 cars, when I thought 700's were going to be in fixed 8 and 12 car
formations.

Yes! I looked at the pictures and wondered where the other cars were

I suppose if they want to use it for testing, a short-formed one is
going to be almost as good as a regular one.

I think it will be tested as a 12-car; the split into three sets of four
cars was just for delivery.

On 2015\07\31 15:41, Recliner wrote:
http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk...train-arrives/

Claire Perry is really churning out those "I welcome these new trains..."
press releases this week.

Why doesn't their class number start with a 3?