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Basil Jet[_4_] September 30th 15 04:37 PM

Goblin electrification
 
.... the timescale was rumoured to be slipping, according to Modern
Railways, but the contract has now been let.

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...orewrite=false

I had no idea that Barking platform one was not electrified! Won't it
become disused when the Barking Reach extension is built?

Anna Noyd-Dryver September 30th 15 09:01 PM

Goblin electrification
 
Basil Jet wrote:
... the timescale was rumoured to be slipping, according to Modern
Railways, but the contract has now been let.

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...orewrite=false

I had no idea that Barking platform one was not electrified! Won't it
become disused when the Barking Reach extension is built?


Always useful to have a diversionary option if there's a problem somewhere!


Anna Noyd-Dryver

Robin9 September 30th 15 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basil Jet[_4_] (Post 150369)
.... the timescale was rumoured to be slipping, according to Modern
Railways, but the contract has now been let.

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...orewrite=false

I had no idea that Barking platform one was not electrified! Won't it
become disused when the Barking Reach extension is built?

I'm very pleased they have brought the costs down. As a resident of
Leyton I often find this service useful.

I didn't see any reference to platforms being lengthened. I assume
that will have to wait until patronage has increased. (If they re-opened
the route through to St. Pancras, patronage would increase very rapidly!)

[email protected] October 1st 15 12:55 AM

Goblin electrification
 
In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:37:21 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

... the timescale was rumoured to be slipping, according to Modern
Railways, but the contract has now been let.


http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...to-carry-out-e
lectrification-of-gospel-oak-barking-route?dorewrite=false

I had no idea that Barking platform one was not electrified! Won't it
become disused when the Barking Reach extension is built?


In theory yes but I'd want a bolt hole for the trains in case a
freight train does something stupid east of Barking or C2C have a rare
breakdown. Makes no sense to throw away an important facility and we
haven't got the TWA process started never mind signed off for the
Barking Riverside extension. New Mayor in May 2016 may have other
ideas [1] that could force a change in requirements.

[1] e.g. build a tunnel to Thamesmead as part of the initial scope or
a very early follow on piece of work. That'd force different
requirements at Barking Reach that could affect the scope of the TWAO.


Trouble is that there are two electrification systems at Barking. Platform 1
isn't ideally situated for overhead electrification.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_3_] October 1st 15 06:48 AM

Goblin electrification
 
Robin9 wrote:
'Basil Jet[_4_ Wrote:
;150369'].... the timescale was rumoured to be slipping, according to
Modern
Railways, but the contract has now been let.

http://tinyurl.com/ns5psws

I had no idea that Barking platform one was not electrified! Won't it
become disused when the Barking Reach extension is built?


I'm very pleased they have brought the costs down. As a resident of
Leyton I often find this service useful.

I didn't see any reference to platforms being lengthened. I assume
that will have to wait until patronage has increased. (If they
re-opened
the route through to St. Pancras, patronage would increase very
rapidly!)


Are the platforms already long enough for four-car trains?

Mike Bristow October 1st 15 08:55 AM

Goblin electrification
 
In article ,
Recliner wrote:
[the goblin]
Are the platforms already long enough for four-car trains?


No. Most stations that used to have longer platforms have had the
length beyond two car closed. This would be easy to fix - repoint
the brickwork, repaint all the things, etc. But South Tottenham
would be more challenging - extending westwards is tricky becuase
there's a bridge over the A10 that way; extending eastwards is
tricky becuae there's a junction that way. Google maps will give
you a picture - literally.

Cheers,
Mike

--
Mike Bristow


[email protected] October 1st 15 01:23 PM

Goblin electrification
 
In article , (Mike
Bristow) wrote:

In article

-september.
org, Recliner wrote:
[the goblin]
Are the platforms already long enough for four-car trains?


No. Most stations that used to have longer platforms have had the
length beyond two car closed. This would be easy to fix - repoint
the brickwork, repaint all the things, etc. But South Tottenham
would be more challenging - extending westwards is tricky becuase
there's a bridge over the A10 that way; extending eastwards is
tricky becuae there's a junction that way. Google maps will give
you a picture - literally.


Luckily 378s have SDO.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Basil Jet[_4_] October 1st 15 02:24 PM

Goblin electrification
 
On 2015\10\01 09:55, Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
Recliner wrote:
[the goblin]
Are the platforms already long enough for four-car trains?


No. Most stations that used to have longer platforms have had the
length beyond two car closed. This would be easy to fix - repoint
the brickwork, repaint all the things, etc. But South Tottenham
would be more challenging - extending westwards is tricky becuase
there's a bridge over the A10 that way; extending eastwards is
tricky becuae there's a junction that way. Google maps will give
you a picture - literally.


Google maps suggests that you could easily double the length of the
platforms without running into the junction or the A10.


Robin9 October 1st 15 04:43 PM

The solution at South Tottenham is the one they used at
Mitcham Eastfields: platforms that don't line up opposite each
other. Eastbound the platform would pass (include) the junction
and westbound the platform would have to extend across the
High Road on a bridge. Expensive but not difficult.

Recliner[_3_] October 1st 15 05:56 PM

Goblin electrification
 
wrote:
In article , (Mike
Bristow) wrote:

In article

-september.
, Recliner wrote:
[the goblin]
Are the platforms already long enough for four-car trains?


No. Most stations that used to have longer platforms have had the
length beyond two car closed. This would be easy to fix - repoint
the brickwork, repaint all the things, etc. But South Tottenham
would be more challenging - extending westwards is tricky becuase
there's a bridge over the A10 that way; extending eastwards is
tricky becuae there's a junction that way. Google maps will give
you a picture - literally.


Luckily 378s have SDO.


But it won't be using 378s, will it?


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