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On 2015-10-06 15:40:00 +0000, Roland Perry said:

And roaming data?


£2/day if you're an O2 user. It's getting more sensibly affordable.

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On 2015-10-06 08:03:31 +0000, Roland Perry said:

In message , at 21:02:52 on Mon, 5
Oct 2015, Neil Williams remarked:

They could be taking off their Uber-hat for that trip.


Then you report them and refuse to pay.


Why would someone do that, especially if offered a discount fare?


Because I booked Uber to pay, stress and negotiation free, by credit
card. That's one of its big selling points. I might not even be
carrying enough cash for a supposed cash fare.

I take great pleasure in telling people to get lost when they try to
offer me money to end an eBay auction by adding a buy now. I put it on
auction for a reason. FWIW, every time I have got more than I was
offered.

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On 2015-10-06 10:38:53 +0000, Basil Jet said:

Having people in non-wheelchair-accessible cars surrounding venues,
charging 20 or 30 pound minimum fares and threatening to behead any
taxi drivers who try to get near the venue isn't quite as convenient to
the user as you seem to imply.


There are perfectly good criminal laws to deal with threatening
behaviour and menace. And if they charge £20 or £30 minimum, perhaps
they wouldn't if passengers told them to get lost.

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Robin9 wrote:
The scare propaganda is FUD put out by the black cab trade
because they are not willing to compete in the open market on
even terms and want instead to have their competition made
illegal.


Presumably Ubers fake taxis are FUD too?

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/ubers-phantom-cabs

And lets not forget about their "surge" pricing, when black cabs and most
minicabs have a fixed rate.

And are you so naive to believe that if Uber did put all the black cabs
and minicabs out of business their prices would somehow remain low?

Uber is nothing more than another bunch of silicon valley slimeballs who move
in unregulated to make a fast buck, disrupting other operators in the process
who have to follow the law, THEN they comply with the law if they're forced to.
And you think this is a business model to admire?

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What fake taxis are you talking about? I'm not aware that
Uber deploy fake taxis and TfL are not either. To the best
of my knowledge Uber drivers use conventional saloon cars
like the Toyota Prius.

Uber is a minicab firm that has analysed the market with great
precision and has worked out how to tap into that market by
utilising modern technology that happens also to be fashionable.
As I said earlier I have no connection with Uber and I don't use
them, so I don't care what they charge. It's a free market and they,
like anyone else, are entitled to charge what the market will bear.
If people don't like or don't approve of surge pricing, they shouldn't
use Uber when demand is high, e.g. during a tube strike.

Uber are not disrupting other service providers. They are competing
with them and they are not unregulated. TfL have confirmed that Uber
are conforming to the same regulations as other London minicab firms.

I admire any company that can analyse a market shrewdly and enter
that market late in the day and quickly outperform longstanding players.
I don't necessarily like such companies but I respect them.

How this eventually plays out, no-one knows. The black cab trade
clearly hasn't the first clue how to compete with Uber and I suspect
that small, local minicab firms do not realise that their days are
numbered. What I do not want is Uber to have a near monopoly.
I hope that the more alert minicab companies, like Addison Lee,
Keen and Greyhound will offer the same app-based service that
Uber are providing and give Uber some real competition.


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On 2015-10-06 18:36:20 +0000, Robin9 said:

I hope that the more alert minicab companies, like Addison Lee,
Keen and Greyhound will offer the same app-based service that
Uber are providing and give Uber some real competition.


Apparently Addison Lee have:
http://www.addisonlee.com/apps/

They appear to be specifically pushing the lack of surge pricing as a
selling point.

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2015, Neil Williams remarked:

And roaming data?


£2/day if you're an O2 user. It's getting more sensibly affordable.


That's only in Europe. Their standard rates outside Europe are £1/MB it
seems.
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