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In message , at 12:34:19 on Sun, 22 May
2016, Graeme Wall remarked: How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be useful. There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to access the platform. Which means the signalling needs to be changed, and in the current environment (with ever more safety measures fighting against ever more remote signallers) it appears that changing the signalling costs Network Rail orders of magnitude more money than changing the pointwork. -- Roland Perry |
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On 22/05/2016 12:40, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:34:19 on Sun, 22 May 2016, Graeme Wall remarked: How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be useful. There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to access the platform. Which means the signalling needs to be changed, and in the current environment (with ever more safety measures fighting against ever more remote signallers) it appears that changing the signalling costs Network Rail orders of magnitude more money than changing the pointwork. Depends on whether they are going to have to upgrade the signalling antway which would reduce the extra cost significantly. More of a problem would be the extra moves across a flat junction interrupting the existing services, plus whether there are the extra paths available west of Gospel Oak for the trains. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote: How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be useful. There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to access the platform. Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware Station is like that.) Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full Stratford service went to Richmond. |
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Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote: On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote: How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be useful. There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to access the platform. Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware Station is like that.) Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full Stratford service went to Richmond. One minor point, but the new GOBLIN trains will be four-car Aventras, rather than the five-car 378s used on the NLL. Wasting a scarce NLL path on a four-car unit wouldn't go down well. |
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On Sun, 22 May 2016 14:17:14 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote: On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote: How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be useful. There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to access the platform. Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware Station is like that.) Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full Stratford service went to Richmond. One minor point, but the new GOBLIN trains will be four-car Aventras, rather than the five-car 378s used on the NLL. Wasting a scarce NLL path on a four-car unit wouldn't go down well. They "waste" a path on a 2 or 4 coach DMU to Willesden Junction every weekday morning; I suspect the passengers see it as a relief rather than a nuisance. |
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In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote: On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote: How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be useful. There's physically space to convert it to a through platform. The pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to access the platform. Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware Station is like that.) Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full Stratford service went to Richmond. What GOBLIN frequency is planned post-electrification (currently 4 an hour)? No change at present (although the longer trains will mean a significant capacity increase). Peter Smyth |
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On 2016\05\22 23:12, Peter Smyth wrote:
wrote: In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote: On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote: How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be useful. There's physically space to convert it to a through platform. The pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to access the platform. Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware Station is like that.) Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full Stratford service went to Richmond. What GOBLIN frequency is planned post-electrification (currently 4 an hour)? No change at present (although the longer trains will mean a significant capacity increase). They will be running 5tph peak service when the line is half-closed. |
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