On 28/09/2016 13:06, Recliner wrote:
[...]
Yes, agreed. They look better with the new, clean upholstery; the old
stuff was filthy and stained, making one reluctant to sit on those
comfortable benches.


I was in one with totally grubby looking moquettes on the seats the
other day. Not a good look.

Hopefully the new trains will be designed with the twisty-turny Bakerloo
line route in mind, so a bit less wheel squeal in places. I suspect it's
never going to be the smoothest riding line.

On 28.09.16 14:35, Mizter T wrote:

On 28/09/2016 13:06, Recliner wrote:
[...]
Yes, agreed. They look better with the new, clean upholstery; the old
stuff was filthy and stained, making one reluctant to sit on those
comfortable benches.


I was in one with totally grubby looking moquettes on the seats the
other day. Not a good look.

Hopefully the new trains will be designed with the twisty-turny Bakerloo
line route in mind, so a bit less wheel squeal in places. I suspect it's
never going to be the smoothest riding line.

Have you ever been to the outer loop track on the New York City Subway's
South Ferry station? That is well and truly loud.

Trains rounding the curve into Fulton Street on the Lexington Avenue
Line are also not known for being quiet.