On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:49:55 +0100
David Walters wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:34:29 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
Lots of noise and blocked traffic when I walked past yesterday in Southwark.
Anyone know what they're protesting about this week? Is it Uber, fares, or
they just don't like TfL in general?

There was a leaflet picture tweeted at
https://twitter.com/blacktaxicab/sta...30762549383168

Some of it sounds reasonable - if true, which is a big if - but others...

Endangering Taxi drivers with irresponsible rear mounted card readers.

Huh? Wtf is dangerous about a card reader?

Cutting Taxi earnings by up to five percent, on card transactions.

I bet thats the card companies skimming their commission and nothing to do
with TfL.

Harassing Taxi drivers, whilst condoning Private Hire illegalities.

Hmm, does have the vague sound of a whinge.

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Spud

In message , at 10:37:37 on Tue, 18 Oct
2016, d remarked:

Endangering Taxi drivers with irresponsible rear mounted card readers.

Huh? Wtf is dangerous about a card reader?

Perhaps it puts the driver into contact with the passenger - not always
a good idea.
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Roland Perry

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:52:39 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:37:37 on Tue, 18 Oct
2016, d remarked:

Endangering Taxi drivers with irresponsible rear mounted card readers.

Huh? Wtf is dangerous about a card reader?

Perhaps it puts the driver into contact with the passenger - not always
a good idea.

You can see them in lots of black cabs now. They're mounted in the passenger
compartment and look like the standard type you get in shops. I would expect -
if the system has been implemented properly - that the driver has some button
or whatever on his meter to initiate the card reader. I can't see he'd need
to touch it himself (and if he did it he'd need to be a contortionist to do it!)
Or get out and go around the back. Which seems unlikely to me.

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Spud

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 10:37:37 on Tue, 18 Oct
2016, d remarked:

Endangering Taxi drivers with irresponsible rear mounted card readers.

Huh? Wtf is dangerous about a card reader?

Perhaps it puts the driver into contact with the passenger - not always a
good idea.

so how does the driver avoid "contact with the passenger" when accept a cash
payment now?

tim

In message , at 14:01:25 on Tue, 18 Oct
2016, tim... remarked:

Endangering Taxi drivers with irresponsible rear mounted card readers.

Huh? Wtf is dangerous about a card reader?

Perhaps it puts the driver into contact with the passenger - not
always a good idea.

so how does the driver avoid "contact with the passenger" when accept a
cash payment now?

The passenger slips it through a letter-box sized aperture.
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Roland Perry

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:37:37 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:49:55 +0100
David Walters wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:34:29 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
Lots of noise and blocked traffic when I walked past yesterday in Southwark.
Anyone know what they're protesting about this week? Is it Uber, fares, or
they just don't like TfL in general?

There was a leaflet picture tweeted at
https://twitter.com/blacktaxicab/sta...30762549383168

Some of it sounds reasonable - if true, which is a big if - but others...

Cutting Taxi earnings by up to five percent, on card transactions.

I bet thats the card companies skimming their commission and nothing to do
with TfL.

I'm not sure if it has happened already or not but TfL want the fare
paid to be the same regardless of cash or card with no surcharge.
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...y-london-taxis

"David Walters" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:37:37 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:49:55 +0100
David Walters wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:34:29 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
Lots of noise and blocked traffic when I walked past yesterday in
Southwark.
Anyone know what they're protesting about this week? Is it Uber, fares,
or
they just don't like TfL in general?

There was a leaflet picture tweeted at
https://twitter.com/blacktaxicab/sta...30762549383168

Some of it sounds reasonable - if true, which is a big if - but others...

Cutting Taxi earnings by up to five percent, on card transactions.

I bet thats the card companies skimming their commission and nothing to
do
with TfL.

I'm not sure if it has happened already or not but TfL want the fare
paid to be the same regardless of cash or card with no surcharge.
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...y-london-taxis

That's not unreasonable, but CC charges are not 5%

so what's the beef here?

tim

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:02:33 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"David Walters" wrote in message
I'm not sure if it has happened already or not but TfL want the fare
paid to be the same regardless of cash or card with no surcharge.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...yor-and-tfl-co
firm-card-and-contactless-payments-will-be-accepted-by-london-taxis

That's not unreasonable, but CC charges are not 5%

They're 0% in most shops. You don't expect to pay more for your shopping at
Tesco if you use a CC rather than debit or cash. The supermarket swallows the
cost since its more than made up for by the greater custom because of it.
Perhaps something the cabbies should bear in mind.

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Spud

wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:02:33 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"David Walters" wrote in message
I'm not sure if it has happened already or not but TfL want the fare
paid to be the same regardless of cash or card with no surcharge.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...ber/mayor-and-
tfl-co
firm-card-and-contactless-payments-will-be-accepted-by-london-taxis

That's not unreasonable, but CC charges are not 5%

They're 0% in most shops. You don't expect to pay more for your shopping
at Tesco if you use a CC rather than debit or cash. The supermarket
swallows the cost since its more than made up for by the greater custom
because of it. Perhaps something the cabbies should bear in mind.

Ansd as amore direct comparison Trains charge the same for cash and
credit cards


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Mark

wrote in message ...
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:02:33 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"David Walters" wrote in message
I'm not sure if it has happened already or not but TfL want the fare
paid to be the same regardless of cash or card with no surcharge.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...yor-and-tfl-co
firm-card-and-contactless-payments-will-be-accepted-by-london-taxis

That's not unreasonable, but CC charges are not 5%

They're 0% in most shops.

The point of discussion is the charges to the seller, not the buyer.

The cabbies argument is that *they* will lose 5% because that is what the CC
companies charge them and TfL are asking them to agree to a "contract"
forbidding CC surcharges to customers.

My point was that the CC companies *don't charge them 5%.

tim