In message , at
21:26:01 on Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Offramp remarked:

Finally, can someone explain how someone might be "beheaded" when a tram tips over

That's fairly easy. Their head gets thrown through a window as that side
of the tram is sliding sideways, and gets cut off as it slides over one
of the rails.

As for the hoax theory, what about the staff and other patients at the
hospital, were they all under NDA too?
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Roland Perry

In message , at 09:25:58 on Fri, 11 Nov
2016, d remarked:

David Icke is usually for entertainment value only , but this is just
hideously disrespectful to the people who died and were hurt. I know the man
is borderline mentally ill, but I can't help thinking he should lose a few
teeth over this one.

Incitement to violence. That's illegal.
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Roland Perry

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:25:58 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:26:01 -0800 (PST)
Offramp wrote:
At his forum David Icke reckons that this tram crash, like all rail and bus=
crashes, was a hoax. See https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=3D29=
9862&page=3D17

David Icke is usually for entertainment value only , but this is just
hideously disrespectful to the people who died and were hurt. I know the man
is borderline mentally ill, but I can't help thinking he should lose a few
teeth over this one.

I recall a film may years ago where mysterious glass objects were found at the sites of major
disasters e.g. plane crashes. These were thought to be alien in origin and everyone thought the
earth was under attack.

The perpetrators turned out to be people profiting from the scare, they did not cause the disasters
but just got someone to plant a glass ball at a disaster site.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:07:22 +0000, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 09:25:58 on Fri, 11 Nov
2016, d remarked:

David Icke is usually for entertainment value only , but this is just
hideously disrespectful to the people who died and were hurt. I know the man
is borderline mentally ill, but I can't help thinking he should lose a few
teeth over this one.

Incitement to violence. That's illegal.

Yup. Hate crime.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:05:51 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
21:26:01 on Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Offramp remarked:

Finally, can someone explain how someone might be "beheaded" when a tram tips
over

That's fairly easy. Their head gets thrown through a window as that side
of the tram is sliding sideways, and gets cut off as it slides over one
of the rails.

As for the hoax theory, what about the staff and other patients at the
hospital, were they all under NDA too?

If you question the varacity of the conspiracy theory you're obviously in on
the conspiracy! Or at least thats how these paranoids think.

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Spud

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:07:22 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:25:58 on Fri, 11 Nov
2016, d remarked:

David Icke is usually for entertainment value only , but this is just
hideously disrespectful to the people who died and were hurt. I know the man
is borderline mentally ill, but I can't help thinking he should lose a few
teeth over this one.

Incitement to violence. That's illegal.

I meant at the dentists obviously.

Seriously, the guy is a utter **** for saying this and I wouldn't lose any
sleep if he got duffed up over it. Won't happen of course but one can hope.

--
Spud

On Wednesday, 9 November 2016 18:17:04 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\11\09 15:57, wrote:

I'm not familiar with braking systems on that system.

If the driver's asleep, there aren't any.

Maybe he wasn't asleep but listening to the news and
fainted when he heard the American election results...?

On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:20:55 +0000 (UTC)
d wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.
At a rough guess
Spud


Way overloaded with dole whores.

In message , at 10:44:34 on
Fri, 11 Nov 2016, Optimist remarked:

David Icke is usually for entertainment value only , but this is just
hideously disrespectful to the people who died and were hurt. I know the man
is borderline mentally ill, but I can't help thinking he should lose a few
teeth over this one.

Incitement to violence. That's illegal.

Yup. Hate crime.

Hate crime is a big and fuzzy umbrella. Incitement to violence is a nice
concise offence.
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Roland Perry

On 11.11.16 8:48, tim... wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 7:10:56 PM UTC, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:55:42 on Wed, 9 Nov 2016,
" remarked:

Almost certain speed,

RAIB have dropped a huge hint about that.

driver or leaf fall?

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Is there not some sort of ATP or speed control system in such an event
on the Tramlink? IIRC, there are timed signals along the line.

TPWS-for-trams, anyone?
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Roland Perry

The latest from the BBC is that it was a Wimbledon-bound train that
derailed after taking a 12mph corner too fast. Explains why the driver
has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter. They are also
investigating if he was asleep. Apparently trams aren't fitted with
devices to apply the brakes if travelling too fast.

but, according to the BBC, they are fitted with devices that apply the
brakes if the driver falls asleep

Ever stranger and stranger

tim



Not dissimilar to the incident in Hoboken, in one sense.