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In message , at 09:07:54 on Mon, 30 Oct 2017,
Peter Able remarked:
Here's another variant. I can't see Beck's name on it, but the schematic
map is certainly in his style:
https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~267441~90041892:Imperial-Airways-Map-of-Empire-&-Eu


Yes, I came across that, apparent, plagiarism of Beck's efforts.


"This extraordinary world map by noted Bauhaus designer and artist, Laszlo
Moholy-Nagy, draws on the pioneering information design work of Harry Beck
and his London subway maps"
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Roland Perry


Hmm. "draws on" - spelt p-l-a-g .....

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In message , at 15:23:51 on Mon, 30 Oct
2017, Peter Able remarked:

Here's another variant. I can't see Beck's name on it, but the schematic
map is certainly in his style:
https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~267441~90041892:Imperial-Airways-Map-of-Empire-&-Eu


Yes, I came across that, apparent, plagiarism of Beck's efforts.


"This extraordinary world map by noted Bauhaus designer and artist, Laszlo
Moholy-Nagy, draws on the pioneering information design work of Harry Beck
and his London subway maps"


Hmm. "draws on" - spelt p-l-a-g .....


I think plagiarise implies copying something pretty much intact from one
work to another. This instance is simply very much "in the style of".
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In message , at 15:23:51 on Mon, 30 Oct 2017,
Peter Able remarked:

Here's another variant. I can't see Beck's name on it, but the
schematic
map is certainly in his style:
https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~267441~90041892:Imperial-Airways-Map-of-Empire-&-Eu


Yes, I came across that, apparent, plagiarism of Beck's efforts.

"This extraordinary world map by noted Bauhaus designer and artist,
Laszlo
Moholy-Nagy, draws on the pioneering information design work of Harry
Beck
and his London subway maps"


Hmm. "draws on" - spelt p-l-a-g .....


I think plagiarise implies copying something pretty much intact from one
work to another. This instance is simply very much "in the style of".
--
Roland Perry


I don't doubt that you may well think that.

Dare you consult a dictionary, Roland?

This is overt plagiarism.

PA


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In message , at 17:56:19 on Mon, 30 Oct
2017, Peter Able remarked:

"This extraordinary world map by noted Bauhaus designer and artist,
Laszlo Moholy-Nagy, draws on the pioneering information design work
of Harry Beck and his London subway maps"

Hmm. "draws on" - spelt p-l-a-g .....


I think plagiarise implies copying something pretty much intact from one
work to another. This instance is simply very much "in the style of".


I don't doubt that you may well think that.

Dare you consult a dictionary, Roland?

This is overt plagiarism.


"the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them
off as one's own" where 'draws on the pioneering information design work
of Harry Beck' comprehensively refutes that.
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I notice that the DLR now show multiple routes on their map.
http://content.tfl.gov.uk/dlr30-leaflet-and-map.pdf


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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:56:19 on Mon, 30 Oct 2017,
Peter Able remarked:

"This extraordinary world map by noted Bauhaus designer and artist,
Laszlo Moholy-Nagy, draws on the pioneering information design work
of Harry Beck and his London subway maps"

Hmm. "draws on" - spelt p-l-a-g .....

I think plagiarise implies copying something pretty much intact from one
work to another. This instance is simply very much "in the style of".


I don't doubt that you may well think that.

Dare you consult a dictionary, Roland?

This is overt plagiarism.


"the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off
as one's own" where 'draws on the pioneering information design work of
Harry Beck' comprehensively refutes that.


and who wrote that quotation?


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In message , at 18:45:28 on Tue, 31 Oct
2017, Peter Able remarked:

This is overt plagiarism.


"the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off
as one's own" where 'draws on the pioneering information design work of
Harry Beck' comprehensively refutes that.


and who wrote that quotation?


The first is from an online dictionary, the second from David Rumsey's
website.
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 18:45:28 on Tue, 31 Oct 2017,
Peter Able remarked:

This is overt plagiarism.

"the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them
off
as one's own" where 'draws on the pioneering information design work of
Harry Beck' comprehensively refutes that.


and who wrote that quotation?


David Rumsey's website..


Precisely.


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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 09:07:54 on Mon, 30 Oct 2017, Peter Able
remarked:
Here's another variant. I can't see Beck's name on it, but the schematic
map is certainly in his style:
https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~267441~90041892:Imperial-Airways-Map-of-Empire-&-Eu


Yes, I came across that, apparent, plagiarism of Beck's efforts.


"This extraordinary world map by noted Bauhaus designer and artist, Laszlo
Moholy-Nagy, draws on the pioneering information design work of Harry Beck and his
London subway maps"
--
Roland Perry


Hmm. "draws on" - spelt p-l-a-g .....


Try looking up "without acknowledgement".

A first requirement for plagiarism is an intention to
deceive.



PA


Could you please explain how the schematic map which Harry Beck
devised for the London Underground differed in any substantial
way from the schematic circuit diagrams which he produced as a
draughtsman during the day ?

At a superficial level I'd say both consist of nodes either
components or stations so arranged such that they can be
connected by lines either at right angles or diagonally.

Clearly you must think there's something more, as similarly
you clearly don't think that Harry Beck simply plagiarised
the principles laid down by the un-named originators of the
first circuit diagrams.

As presumably you're prepared for these true pioneers of
schematic diagrams to remain unrecognised by posterity.


michael adams

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