Apparently the Centrale shopping centre (which only opened in 2004) is
to be merged with the Whitgift Centre. I think this will probably create
the largest shopping centre in the UK, since the combined area of the
current centres is only just short of the Metro Centre in Newcastle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41983441

This page suggests that East Croydon may gain a fourth pair of NR platforms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydo...#Train_Station

The page also talks about lengthening tram platforms at West Croydon,
although I couldn't quite find enough info to make sense of that. I
would have imagined that all the tram platforms are the same length, and
there would be no point in lengthening one unless you lengthen them all.

Bad news for Croydon. The Whitgift Centre has for years been blighted by Westfield's plans. Getting on for half of the shops are closed, with more every time I go there. There's nothing much wrong with the place which couldn't be fixed by some minor refurbishment, fixing some leaks in the roof, some of which have been there for years, for example, and a bit of paint.

We already have two Westfield centres in London, they mainly sell things like expensive designer clothes, which are not something which most people buy very often, if ever. They don't seem to attract shops selling everyday things. There's a not very good Sainsbury's in the Whitgift Centre, but rather than improving that it will almost certainly be absent from the new Westfield.

A large hole was made in the centre of Bradfield years ago for Westfield to build a new centre there, put the plans were then put on hold, leaving a large empty space. The Broadway Centre was eventually built, opening a couple of years ago, but the Westfield name doesn't seem to be anywhere on it.

On 2017-11-15 09:45:59 +0000, said:

Bad news for Croydon. The Whitgift Centre has for years been blighted
by Westfield's plans. Getting on for half of the shops are closed,
with more every time I go there. There's nothing much wrong with the
place which couldn't be fixed by some minor refurbishment, fixing some
leaks in the roof, some of which have been there for years, for
example, and a bit of paint.

It's an absolute rathole in every possible way and needs pulling down.

We already have two Westfield centres in London, they mainly sell
things like expensive designer clothes, which are not something which
most people buy very often, if ever. They don't seem to attract shops
selling everyday things. There's a not very good Sainsbury's in the
Whitgift Centre, but rather than improving that it will almost
certainly be absent from the new Westfield.

Realistically who completes a full supermarket shop in a town centre
these days? An out of town supermarket and a Sainsburys Local (there
is already one near the station) will do better I reckon.

A large hole was made in the centre of Bradfield years ago for
Westfield to build a new centre there, put the plans were then put on
hold, leaving a large empty space. The Broadway Centre was eventually
built, opening a couple of years ago, but the Westfield name doesn't
seem to be anywhere on it.

Bradford.

Neil
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On 2017-11-15 09:45:59 +0000, said:

Bad news for Croydon. The Whitgift Centre has for years been blighted by
Westfield's plans. Getting on for half of the shops are closed, with
more every time I go there. There's nothing much wrong with the place
which couldn't be fixed by some minor refurbishment, fixing some leaks in
the roof, some of which have been there for years, for example, and a bit
of paint.

It's an absolute rathole in every possible way and needs pulling down.

We already have two Westfield centres in London, they mainly sell things
like expensive designer clothes, which are not something which most
people buy very often, if ever. They don't seem to attract shops selling
everyday things. There's a not very good Sainsbury's in the Whitgift
Centre, but rather than improving that it will almost certainly be absent
from the new Westfield.

Realistically who completes a full supermarket shop in a town centre these
days? An out of town supermarket and a Sainsburys Local (there is already
one near the station) will do better I reckon.

A large hole was made in the centre of Bradfield years ago for Westfield
to build a new centre there, put the plans were then put on hold, leaving
a large empty space. The Broadway Centre was eventually built, opening a
couple of years ago, but the Westfield name doesn't seem to be anywhere
on it.

Bradford.

Bradfield is the fictional city where Wire in the Blood is set

Just thought you'd all like to know that

tim

On 2017\11\15 13:58, tim... wrote:

Bradfield is the fictional city where Wire in the Blood is set

If you read the book, it was called Bielefeld in the original Klingon.

On 2017-11-15 13:58:24 +0000, tim... said:

Bradfield is the fictional city where Wire in the Blood is set

Just thought you'd all like to know that

Oh. There is/was a big hole in the middle of Bradford pending a
shopping arcade of some kind, though.

Neil

On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 10:33:59 UTC, Neil Williams wrote:
On 2017-11-15 09:45:59 +0000, said:

Bad news for Croydon. The Whitgift Centre has for years been blighted
by Westfield's plans. Getting on for half of the shops are closed,
with more every time I go there. There's nothing much wrong with the
place which couldn't be fixed by some minor refurbishment, fixing some
leaks in the roof, some of which have been there for years, for
example, and a bit of paint.

It's an absolute rathole in every possible way and needs pulling down.

We already have two Westfield centres in London, they mainly sell
things like expensive designer clothes, which are not something which
most people buy very often, if ever. They don't seem to attract shops
selling everyday things. There's a not very good Sainsbury's in the
Whitgift Centre, but rather than improving that it will almost
certainly be absent from the new Westfield.

Realistically who completes a full supermarket shop in a town centre
these days? An out of town supermarket and a Sainsburys Local (there
is already one near the station) will do better I reckon.

A large hole was made in the centre of Bradfield years ago for
Westfield to build a new centre there, put the plans were then put on
hold, leaving a large empty space. The Broadway Centre was eventually
built, opening a couple of years ago, but the Westfield name doesn't
seem to be anywhere on it.

Bradford.

Neil
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I know ir's Bradford[ I'm there quite often. Not sure if it was my brain, or the spell checker which did something odd.

Realistically who completes a full supermarket shop in a town centre
these days? An out of town supermarket and a Sainsburys Local (there
is already one near the station) will do better I reckon.

I only know quite a small number of people, but I can't think of anybody I know who goess out of town for their normal shopping. Such shopping is usually done within walking distance of home, or work, or of rhe journey between the two.

On 2017-11-16 13:26:38 +0000, said:


Realistically who completes a full supermarket shop in a town centre
these days? An out of town supermarket and a Sainsburys Local (there
is already one near the station) will do better I reckon.

I only know quite a small number of people, but I can't think of
anybody I know who goess out of town for their normal shopping. Such
shopping is usually done within walking distance of home, or work, or
of rhe journey between the two.

Mostly in Express/Local type stores then?

Maybe it's a London thing. In most of the UK the weekly shop is done
in an out of town style supermarket (sometimes on the edge of town, but
almost never actually *in* it).

Neil
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Neil Williams wrote:
Maybe it's a London thing. In most of the UK the weekly shop is done
in an out of town style supermarket (sometimes on the edge of town, but
almost never actually *in* it).

The thing is there isn't a weekly shop any more
(for some proportion of people):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...rket-shop.html

Theo