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On Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:13:34 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:

It's looking fairly likely that TfL will have to give away their diesel
trains before the electric trains are ready, and might end up
bustituting for a while.

https://www.londonreconnections.com/...nsport-update/


TfL certainly has a lot of looming issues. But I'd have thought it could
redeploy some of the 315s displaced from the Shenfield line as a very
short-term GOBLIN replacement fleet. Presumably Bombardier would have to
fund this, as it's months late with the new Aventras, and it currently
maintains the 315s anyway.


No you can't redeploy 315s. They do not have body mmounted CCTV cameras so you need to either retrofit them with this kit - pointless as they going to the scrapheap. You could fit platform CCTV and monitors at stations assuming there is space - this would take many months to do and get sign off. The new trains should be in service by then. The other alternative is to have dispatching staff on every platform - seems a rather extreme thing to do and no one will have budget for it. I really can't see any of this happening plus there are still a load of issues around whether the 315s even fit on the GOBLIN, whether LO drivers are trained on the stock etc etc.

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On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 02:24:35 -0700 (PDT)
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:13:34 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:
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It's looking fairly likely that TfL will have to give away their diesel=

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trains before the electric trains are ready, and might end up=20
bustituting for a while.
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l-a-london-transport-update/
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TfL certainly has a lot of looming issues. But I'd have thought it could
redeploy some of the 315s displaced from the Shenfield line as a very
short-term GOBLIN replacement fleet. Presumably Bombardier would have to
fund this, as it's months late with the new Aventras, and it currently
maintains the 315s anyway.


No you can't redeploy 315s. They do not have body mmounted CCTV cameras so =
you need to either retrofit them with this kit - pointless as they going to=
the scrapheap. You could fit platform CCTV and monitors at stations assum=
ing there is space - this would take many months to do and get sign off. Th=


I assume there are rules saying they can't just look out of a window when
closing the doors to check for obstructions?


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