In message , at 20:28:49 on Sat, 14
Sep 2019, John Williamson remarked:
On 14/09/2019 19:48, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:42:01 on Sat, 14
Sep 2019, John Williamson remarked:
I reckon treating Charles as the centre just arose out of "custom and
practice" as the Government grew and moved into Whitehall,

Moved from where?

There was a process of centralisation over that period of the Civil
service for things like tax collection. Charles's statue just marked
the end of Whitehall, as Trafalgar Square didn't exist.

Interesting they should choose the site of the Eleanor Cross for that.
Could be worth exploring more. Or did the Eleanor Cross already mark the
edge of Whitehall, when that point was chosen as the penultimate
stopping point on the long trip back to Westminster. (eg 'pausing in the
wings', before making a grand entrance the next day)

Most of what you say has already been explored earlier in the thread.
The "London Allowance" however is a surprise, and I'd have expected it
to be based on boroughs, some of whose boundaries are indeed down the
middle of streets. Chorleywood, not far from Watford, being one example.

In this case, it was actually based on the distance from the region's
headquarters, which was Euston Station, (15 miles was the limit, and we
were a street's width outside. The office location had been chosen on
that basis, according to the more cynical of us.) presumably measured
from the buffers.

The Union had "had words", but we were stuck with it. Rules is rules, innit?

If that was Reeds Crescent, I'd demand a recount. Google maps says it's
14.6 miles. 15m is more like the bus garage in Railway Terrace.
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Roland Perry

On 15/09/2019 07:15, Roland Perry wrote:

If that was Reeds Crescent, I'd demand a recount. Google maps says it's
14.6 miles. 15m is more like the bus garage in Railway Terrace.

Somewhat over 40 years ago now, but it was Clarendon Road. The block is
still there, but with a different occupier, and has had a revamp.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

In message , at 08:47:53 on Sun, 15
Sep 2019, John Williamson remarked:
On 15/09/2019 07:15, Roland Perry wrote:

If that was Reeds Crescent, I'd demand a recount. Google maps says it's
14.6 miles. 15m is more like the bus garage in Railway Terrace.

Somewhat over 40 years ago now, but it was Clarendon Road.

I'd still demand a recount. The *far* end of that road is 14.77 miles
from Euston Road (adjacent to the station) not even the buffers,
according to Google maps.

The block is still there, but with a different occupier, and has had a
revamp.

On the west side, presumably. Meridien House? The rest looks too new to
qualify.
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Roland Perry

On 15/09/2019 13:05, Roland Perry wrote:

I'd still demand a recount. The *far* end of that road is 14.77 miles
from Euston Road (adjacent to the station) not even the buffers,
according to Google maps.

Whichever way it works out, the Union agreed with the management. And a
ten percent increase for the entire time I worked there wouldn't even
buy a decent meal now.

The block is still there, but with a different occupier, and has had a
revamp.

On the west side, presumably. Meridien House? The rest looks too new to
qualify.

Dunno, I remember the entrance and block shape as being more like what
is now the Holiday Inn, and I know that chain have refurbished old
office blocks before. This would also be in line with the council's
plans for the area.

It was a concrete framed building with curtain walls, and they were
designed to have regular facelifts just by hanging new walls on them.
and the interior walls were most emphatically not load bearing. The
frame and lift core were specified to laST a century or more, but when
this was built in the '60s, it was known that fashions in building
appearances and interior layouts changed over time. When I was there, we
had single glazed steel windows and very thin walling between us and the
outside.

Wikilies says that Watford Junction is 17 miles 44 chains from the
buffers at Euston, so they may have been using rail miles, and I
misremembered the accusation about merely being on the wrong side of the
road.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

In message , at 14:00:44 on Sun, 15
Sep 2019, John Williamson remarked:
On 15/09/2019 13:05, Roland Perry wrote:

I'd still demand a recount. The *far* end of that road is 14.77 miles
from Euston Road (adjacent to the station) not even the buffers,
according to Google maps.

Whichever way it works out, the Union agreed with the management. And a
ten percent increase for the entire time I worked there wouldn't even
buy a decent meal now.

The block is still there, but with a different occupier, and has had a
revamp.

On the west side, presumably. Meridien House? The rest looks too new to
qualify.

Dunno, I remember the entrance and block shape as being more like what
is now the Holiday Inn, and I know that chain have refurbished old
office blocks before. This would also be in line with the council's
plans for the area.

Ditto the infamous office block across the road from Brentwood Station
where I worked in the 80's is now Premier Inn.

It was a concrete framed building with curtain walls, and they were
designed to have regular facelifts just by hanging new walls on them.
and the interior walls were most emphatically not load bearing. The
frame and lift core were specified to laST a century or more, but when
this was built in the '60s, it was known that fashions in building
appearances and interior layouts changed over time. When I was there,
we had single glazed steel windows and very thin walling between us and
the outside.

Wikilies says that Watford Junction is 17 miles 44 chains from the
buffers at Euston, so they may have been using rail miles, and I
misremembered the accusation about merely being on the wrong side of
the road.

I did wonder if they were using railway miles to the adjacent station,
rather than crow-flies miles.
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Roland Perry