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August 2nd 20, 04:11 PM
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DLR to Thamesmead
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote: This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if this project is even alive now. There's a map at https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/ I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper. What other alternatives are there? Extend Barking Riverside under the river? Take Crossrail into Thamesmead? Some kind of high capacity local feeder system (aka tramway)? |
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August 2nd 20, 04:18 PM
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Graham Harrison wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if this project is even alive now. There's a map at https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/ I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper. What other alternatives are there? Extend Barking Riverside under the river? Take Crossrail into Thamesmead? Some kind of high capacity local feeder system (aka tramway)? Yes, I think a north/south tram network centred on Abbey Wood might be a much cheaper, acceptable alternative. |
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August 2nd 20, 04:29 PM
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On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if this project is even alive now. There's a map at https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/ I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper. What other alternatives are there? Extend Barking Riverside under the river? Take Crossrail into Thamesmead? Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to have gone to Thamesmead in the first place. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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August 2nd 20, 04:35 PM
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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if this project is even alive now. There's a map at https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/ I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper. What other alternatives are there? Extend Barking Riverside under the river? Take Crossrail into Thamesmead? Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to have gone to Thamesmead in the first place. Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the Olympics. |
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August 2nd 20, 09:17 PM
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On 02/08/2020 17:35, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote: On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if this project is even alive now. There's a map at https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/ I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper. What other alternatives are there? Extend Barking Riverside under the river? Take Crossrail into Thamesmead? Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to have gone to Thamesmead in the first place. Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the Olympics. The rerouting was long before the Olympics were a consideration. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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August 2nd 20, 09:45 PM
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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:35, Recliner wrote: Graeme Wall wrote: On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if this project is even alive now. There's a map at https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/ I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper. What other alternatives are there? Extend Barking Riverside under the river? Take Crossrail into Thamesmead? Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to have gone to Thamesmead in the first place. Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the Olympics. The rerouting was long before the Olympics were a consideration. Yes, but the Olympics triggered the redevelopment of the area to the northwest of Stratford station. |
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August 3rd 20, 08:16 AM
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On 2020-08-02 21:17:18 +0000, Graeme Wall said:
On 02/08/2020 17:35, Recliner wrote: Graeme Wall wrote: On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if this project is even alive now. There's a map at https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/ I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper. What other alternatives are there? Extend Barking Riverside under the river? Take Crossrail into Thamesmead? Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to have gone to Thamesmead in the first place. Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the Olympics. The rerouting was long before the Olympics were a consideration. While the Olympics were the vehicle by which the redevelopment happened, at the time the JLE was in planning, it was clear that redevelopment in some format would take place, and providing better transport links was intended to facilitate this (along with the white elephant international station at Stratford). Robin |
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