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On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 21:32:58 -0000 (UTC) Sam Wilson wrote: wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:42:42 -0000 (UTC) Sam Wilson wrote: wrote: power is going to come from to power them all in the first place because right now the generating capacity simply isn't there and short termist politicians don't seem to be interested in providing it, merely exchanging like for like with coal and gas gen replaced by wind farms so they can polish their green halos. That’s true. Maybe they’re thinking ahead to a time when we might have to accept a change in lifestyle rather than trying to find “sustainable” ways to maintain our current ones. Even full lockdowns only led to a 7% reduction in CO2 so the sustainability part is little to do with personal transport and a lot to do with home power and manufacturing it would seem. I’m not sure there’s a sequitur there, but what the heck. Whats the problem? Less people have been travelling during the lockdown hence the reduction in admissions. Any increases in home power usage has been offset by the reduction in office power usage so where does the other 93% of emissions come from? Answer, normal home power usage regardless of lockdown freight transport, manufacturing, construction and agriculture. So that particular, relatively minor change of lifestyle isn’t going to have the necessary effect to make the world sustainable. It’s therefore, by definition, not the kind of change I was referring to. I don’t know what is, yet. Sam -- The entity formerly known as Spit the dummy to reply |
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:05:11 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: Hydrogen power is an enviromental dead end. I wish politicians would realise. No doubt you think energy companies need your advice as well: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...st-green-hydro gen-plant-in-glasgow-8qjsscnl6?shareToken=51bc327aa4999e0edc07659fe907a 0eb If energy companies don't understand basic physics thats not my problem. But then most of them believe they can send "green" electrons down the pipe simply by you signing up with them so go figure. Is everyone here really so dumb a to think that green electricity generation and the national grid ought to work by making sure that green electrons travel from the generator to your home? What was that about basic physics? Sam -- The entity formerly known as Spit the dummy to reply |
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On 12/04/2021 10:59, Sam Wilson wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:05:11 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: Hydrogen power is an enviromental dead end. I wish politicians would realise. No doubt you think energy companies need your advice as well: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...st-green-hydro gen-plant-in-glasgow-8qjsscnl6?shareToken=51bc327aa4999e0edc07659fe907a 0eb If energy companies don't understand basic physics thats not my problem. But then most of them believe they can send "green" electrons down the pipe simply by you signing up with them so go figure. Is everyone here really so dumb a to think that green electricity generation and the national grid ought to work by making sure that green electrons travel from the generator to your home? What was that about basic physics? As discussed earlier, AC only makes electrons move a short distance. The supplier simply makes a one-off transfer of green electrons to fill the house, where they continue to oscillate indefinitely. Installation takes place by adding a small DC bias to the supply on a sunny and windy day with low demand, when the grid has plenty of spare green electrons. |
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:49 -0000 (UTC)
Sam Wilson wrote: wrote: If energy companies don't understand basic physics thats not my problem. But then most of them believe they can send "green" electrons down the pipe simply by you signing up with them so go figure. Is everyone here really so dumb a to think that green electricity generation and the national grid ought to work by making sure that green electrons travel from the generator to your home? What was that about basic physics? I suggest you have another go at reading what I wrote. |
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On 12/04/2021 10:59, Sam Wilson wrote: wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:05:11 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: Hydrogen power is an enviromental dead end. I wish politicians would realise. No doubt you think energy companies need your advice as well: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...st-green-hydro gen-plant-in-glasgow-8qjsscnl6?shareToken=51bc327aa4999e0edc07659fe907a 0eb If energy companies don't understand basic physics thats not my problem. But then most of them believe they can send "green" electrons down the pipe simply by you signing up with them so go figure. Is everyone here really so dumb a to think that green electricity generation and the national grid ought to work by making sure that green electrons travel from the generator to your home? What was that about basic physics? As discussed earlier, AC only makes electrons move a short distance. The supplier simply makes a one-off transfer of green electrons to fill the house, where they continue to oscillate indefinitely. Installation takes place by adding a small DC bias to the supply on a sunny and windy day with low demand, when the grid has plenty of spare green electrons. OK, thanks, got it now. :-) Sam -- The entity formerly known as Spit the dummy to reply |
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:49 -0000 (UTC) Sam Wilson wrote: wrote: If energy companies don't understand basic physics thats not my problem. But then most of them believe they can send "green" electrons down the pipe simply by you signing up with them so go figure. Is everyone here really so dumb a to think that green electricity generation and the national grid ought to work by making sure that green electrons travel from the generator to your home? What was that about basic physics? I suggest you have another go at reading what I wrote. I wasn’t referring directly to you, but to a general feeling in some of the postings, too diffuse to respond to individually. Sam -- The entity formerly known as Spit the dummy to reply |
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:48:23 -0000 (UTC)
Sam Wilson wrote: wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:49 -0000 (UTC) Sam Wilson wrote: wrote: If energy companies don't understand basic physics thats not my problem. But then most of them believe they can send "green" electrons down the pipe simply by you signing up with them so go figure. Is everyone here really so dumb a to think that green electricity generation and the national grid ought to work by making sure that green electrons travel from the generator to your home? What was that about basic physics? I suggest you have another go at reading what I wrote. I wasn’t referring directly to you, but to a general feeling in some of the postings, too diffuse to respond to individually. Its too late to back pedal now. Your "What was that about basic physics?" comment was aimed directly at me because either you misunderstood what I was saying or didn't even bother to read it. |
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In message , at 06:44:08 on Sun, 11 Apr 2021,
Roland Perry remarked: Anglia have liveried trains for the Bittern line, East Suffolk line etc, but I've only ever seen them on the wrong lines! Odd you should mention that... this morning one of the Fen Line GN trains was liveried "Gatwick Express". Which more different to the plain livery than the straying GA Stansted Express ones (which are at least the correct side of the river). Apparently six GatEx 387s have been loaned to GN as temporary 365 replacements. They are having shuffle, then, because we've not seen 365s on the Fen line for a couple of years. Continuing the theme, this afternoon they put a 700/717 (I was too far away to tell) on an Electrostar diagram from Kings Cross to Ely. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 06:44:08 on Sun, 11 Apr 2021, Roland Perry remarked: Anglia have liveried trains for the Bittern line, East Suffolk line etc, but I've only ever seen them on the wrong lines! Odd you should mention that... this morning one of the Fen Line GN trains was liveried "Gatwick Express". Which more different to the plain livery than the straying GA Stansted Express ones (which are at least the correct side of the river). Apparently six GatEx 387s have been loaned to GN as temporary 365 replacements. They are having shuffle, then, because we've not seen 365s on the Fen line for a couple of years. Continuing the theme, this afternoon they put a 700/717 (I was too far away to tell) on an Electrostar diagram from Kings Cross to Ely. The former, surely? |
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