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Had a ride on it yesterday - it's enormous!

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Harrison"
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http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla.../Ecp20january2
004.htm
http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla...cules/List+of+
Vehicles.htm


There's a diesel version running around on the old 102 (now Metrobus
something or other) in Hamburg, a former tram route now operated by
diesel buses using much of the existing tram infrastructure.

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:02:59 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Harrison"
wrote:

http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla.../Ecp20january2
004.htm
http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla...cules/List+of+
Vehicles.htm


There's a diesel version running around on the old 102 (now Metrobus
something or other) in Hamburg, a former tram route now operated by
diesel buses using much of the existing tram infrastructure.

Neil


And how do you reverse them?

Alex
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:42:15 +0100, Alex
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And how do you reverse them?


You don't. On the ex-102, there are turning loops at Niendorf-Markt
and Niendorf-Nord (though you could as well turn them by going around
side streets), and the Rathausmarkt at the other end of the route is
one way in, one way out with regular stops rather than the "nose-in"
type.

I presume they have a reverse gear for emergency use - but expect it
is to be avoided...

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And how do you reverse them?

With skill and a lot of care.
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Clive wrote:

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And how do you reverse them?


With skill and a lot of care.


Alternatively, with a lot of casualties.

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And how do you reverse them?


With skill and a lot of care.


Alternatively, with a lot of casualties.


Doesn't it just fold up into itself from where it can swivel on the spot?

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Alex wrote in message . ..
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:02:59 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Harrison"
wrote:

http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla.../Ecp20january2
004.htm
http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla...cules/List+of+
Vehicles.htm


There's a diesel version running around on the old 102 (now Metrobus
something or other) in Hamburg, a former tram route now operated by
diesel buses using much of the existing tram infrastructure.

Neil


And how do you reverse them?


Not only that , whats to stop the powered rear section jackknifing the bit in
the middle which given it only has a single wheel is probably quite happy to
turn on its axis if given enough of a shove.

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And how do you reverse them?


Not only that , whats to stop the powered rear section jackknifing the bit in
the middle which given it only has a single wheel is probably quite happy to
turn on its axis if given enough of a shove.


They could link the front and rear pivots with a sort of swing link
arrangement to ensure they both turned in sync by half of the total
amount, that would probably make it a lot more controllable. A similar
sort of simple arrangement to what Airfix used to make the wings swing
in parallel on their kit of an F111.

Ok, I'll get my rather venerable anorak ...

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In article , Graham Harrison wrote:
http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla.../Ecp20january2
004.htm
http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Angla...cules/List+of+
Vehicles.htm

Had a ride on it yesterday - it's enormous!


I just got back from a holiday in Crimea, in Ukraine. There is a
trolleybus route there between Simferopol and Yalta, something like 45
miles long!

The trolleybuses used there are a bit more normal-sized, though:

http://www.zen30634.zen.co.uk/DCP_0519.JPG.html

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