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Default Where do you "touch in" at DLR Blackwall?

Used Blackwall late Friday, huffed up the long stairs seeking a yellow
pad to "touch in". Didn't find it. Got to Bank, Central line to Nott
Hill and exited ok. Machine gave journey as

" - Notting Hill Gate" (space dash space)

so it knew I had entered secretly without a 'touch' (monthly Z12 so I
was street legal)

Did my bleary but sober eyes miss the yellow pad at Blackwall?


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Colum Mylod wrote:
Used Blackwall late Friday, huffed up the long stairs seeking a yellow
pad to "touch in". Didn't find it. Got to Bank, Central line to Nott
Hill and exited ok. Machine gave journey as

" - Notting Hill Gate" (space dash space)

so it knew I had entered secretly without a 'touch' (monthly Z12 so I
was street legal)

Did my bleary but sober eyes miss the yellow pad at Blackwall?


I've found that DLR validators aren't usually on the platforms, they're
somewhere near the ticket machines at "ground" (or equivalent) level.
This applied at Heron Quays, Island Gardens and Crossharbour when I last
used the DLR.

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Colum Mylod wrote in message . ..
so it knew I had entered secretly without a 'touch' (monthly Z12 so I
was street legal)


So did you get charged more (single, 1-D)?

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Colum Mylod wrote:
On 6 Jul 2004 08:06:07 -0700, (Paul Weaver) wrote:


Colum Mylod wrote in message . ..

so it knew I had entered secretly without a 'touch' (monthly Z12 so I
was street legal)


So did you get charged more (single, 1-D)?



No, to my complete surprise! The non-existent entry to NHill exit was
listed at the ticket machine as a valid (nowhere) dash Notting Hill
Gate journey, lined up to match the other journeys NHill - Canary
Wharf and White City - Chancery Lane (I do get about..) No surcharge,
no attempt to grab the static 40p left on the pre-paid slot.

I expected a red bulb on exit and having to explain to the staff what
happened but the gate whirled open and let me escape. Z12 monthly as I
said so it was a valid exit, but I could have come in anywhere on the
system outside Z2 for all it knew.

As the other poster Dave said, there might have been a yellow pad on
ground level at Blackwall. I was expecting some sort of barrier at
Bank.


The one at Heron Quays didn't obviously strike my eye when I got there,
I had to look around a bit first. Probably the same problem at Blackwall.

They have installed continuation-of-journey validators at Bank but when
I passed through, they weren't active. I'm not entirely sure why they're
necessary; the system coped perfectly well with my journey (Crossharbour
- Gloucester Road via Bank/Monument).


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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 at 17:01:34, Colum Mylod
wrote:

I expected a red bulb on exit and having to explain to the staff what
happened but the gate whirled open and let me escape. Z12 monthly as I
said so it was a valid exit, but I could have come in anywhere on the
system outside Z2 for all it knew.

Not necessarily; you don't actually have to touch in/out on DLR journeys
if you have a valid Travelcard (and your card is checked about 1 journey
in 3, I found, so you had *better* have a valid Travelcard), so if you
are going via Bank, you have an unresolved journey anyway. If you're
using pre-Pay, you do need to touch in/out, but not unless.
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