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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Barry Salter wrote:

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:33:18 +0930, (Aidan Stanger)
wrote:

Colin McKenzie wrote:

Also Manor House

That's more a case of poor Tube design - 'tis the Piccadilly Line which
fails to have a station in the right place.

If memory serves, don't the Piccadilly and Victoria Lines cross
somewhere in the vicinity of Harringay Green Lanes Station?

According to Simon Clarke's geographical tube map, those lines don't cross
anywhere north of King's Cross. He might be wrong, though.

Or did you mean the crossing of the GOBLin and the Victoria?

tom

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GOBLIN connections was Stansted to Barking
 

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Barry Salter wrote:

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:33:18 +0930, (Aidan
Stanger) wrote:

Colin McKenzie wrote:

Also Manor House

That's more a case of poor Tube design - 'tis the Piccadilly Line
which fails to have a station in the right place.

If memory serves, don't the Piccadilly and Victoria Lines cross
somewhere in the vicinity of Harringay Green Lanes Station?

According to Simon Clarke's geographical tube map, those lines
don't cross anywhere north of King's Cross. He might be wrong,
though.

He is, and not only there. According to the TfL Journey Planner, the
Victoria line crosses the Piccadilly near Rowley Gardens bus stop on
Green Lanes. Ask it for a journey from Seven Sisters to Manor House and
look at the "end map" for Manor House on a route which uses both lines.
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"Richard J." wrote in message
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According to the TfL Journey Planner, the Victoria line
crosses the Piccadilly near Rowley Gardens bus stop
on Green Lanes. Ask it for a journey from Seven Sisters
to Manor House and look at the "end map" for Manor
House on a route which uses both lines.

Portrayal of tube lines on these maps is random. I can't comment on the
portrayal of the Victoria Line here, but the Central Line at Shepherds Bush
is clearly wrong, as is the portrayal of the W&C at Waterloo.

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In article ,
Richard J. wrote:
It also warned me about Hammersmith & City Line
delays on my *bus* route.)

This might not be _totally_ stupid; delays on the H&C might increase
loadings on parallel bus routes, which would increase journey times
on the busses too.

Of course, if the bus route was the W14 then that explaination
doesn't hold up.

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John Rowland wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
...

According to the TfL Journey Planner, the Victoria line
crosses the Piccadilly near Rowley Gardens bus stop
on Green Lanes. Ask it for a journey from Seven Sisters
to Manor House and look at the "end map" for Manor
House on a route which uses both lines.

Portrayal of tube lines on these maps is random. I can't comment on
the portrayal of the Victoria Line here, but the Central Line at
Shepherds Bush is clearly wrong, as is the portrayal of the W&C at
Waterloo.

OK, so it's not perfect, but it's certainly not random. I'd say it gets
closer to the true geographic route of the tube lines than any modern
map that I've seen.

For example, ask it for a route from NW1 4PT (postcode) to Westminster
(station). You should get a walk to Baker Street followed by one tube
journey (Jubilee). Click on the Start Map for the walk, and you'll see
the rather surprising but reasonably accurate course of the Jubilee Line
"south" of Baker Street.
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"Richard J." wrote in message ...
Phil Richards wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:26:35 +0100 Clive D. W. Feather
clive@on-the- train.demon.co.uk said...

8? It's under a minute from the platforms the Stansted Express
uses to the Eastbound H&C. Even worst case (Westbound H&C to
platform 18) is only 2 or 3 minutes.

No doubt the 8 minutes interchange is that built in to the journey
planner. May be for someone who has no luggage and is physically
fit may easily cope with the connection in a couple of minutes,
other situations may be different.

The Journey Planner defaults to "Average" walking speed, which is quite
slow. I usually (if I remember) change it to "Fast", which used to be
about 3 mph. However the new version of the TfL JP has changed my
normal 10-minute walk to my local tube station to 16 minutes, so I'm not
sure what they're up to.

I've just tried to see what they use for Liverpool Street transfer
times, but they seem to have stopped quoting transfer times, which
further damages my confidence in the JP. (It seems to be giving ever
more bizarre results. For a journey yesterday, it asked me to get off a
bus in mid-journey and wait for the one behind on the same route with
the same destination! It also warned me about Hammersmith & City Line
delays on my *bus* route.)

If you want a real laugh try www.transportdirect.info

First it offered car (46 minutes) on the M11, A414, A406, A118, A123,
and A124.

After I told the sodding thing not to drive, it declared that there
was no way of getting from Stansted Airport to Barking by public
transport...

GOBLIN connections was Stansted to Barking
 

In article , Tom
Anderson writes
If memory serves, don't the Piccadilly and Victoria Lines cross
somewhere in the vicinity of Harringay Green Lanes Station?
According to Simon Clarke's geographical tube map, those lines don't cross
anywhere north of King's Cross. He might be wrong, though.

The northbound Victoria and southbound Piccadilly cross south of
Finsbury Park, for a start.

Apart from that, my memory is that the Victoria is always east of the
Piccadilly north of Finsbury Park. However, I'm not 100% sure and will
have to do some digging.

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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in
:

Apart from that, my memory is that the Victoria is always east of the
Piccadilly north of Finsbury Park. However, I'm not 100% sure and
will have to do some digging.

Surely that's rather an extreme method of finding out! :-)

GOBLIN connections was Stansted to Barking
 

In article , Iain
writes
However, I'm not 100% sure and
will have to do some digging.
Surely that's rather an extreme method of finding out! :-)

Sometimes one can't resist leaving a straight line in and seeing who
bites.

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Iain wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 30 Sep 2004:

"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in
:

Apart from that, my memory is that the Victoria is always east of the
Piccadilly north of Finsbury Park. However, I'm not 100% sure and
will have to do some digging.

Surely that's rather an extreme method of finding out! :-)

ROTFL! Excellent!!!
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