On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:52:18 +0000, General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote:

Nothing is more likely to make me top post than complaining about it,
but now I digress.

The union HAVE been talking to the management, for 2 years, and have got
no where, this action is the last resort.

"The union" *spit*

Dont you have the balls to talk to your own manager?

If you dont like your job, hand in your notice and leave. It's not hard.

Paul Weaver wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:52:18 +0000, General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote:

Nothing is more likely to make me top post than complaining about it,
but now I digress.

The union HAVE been talking to the management, for 2 years, and have
got no where, this action is the last resort.

"The union" *spit*

Dont you have the balls to talk to your own manager?

If you dont like your job, hand in your notice and leave. It's not
hard.

There speak someone from a different planet.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:48:48 +0000, Brimstone wrote:

Paul Weaver wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:52:18 +0000, General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote:

Nothing is more likely to make me top post than complaining about it,
but now I digress.

The union HAVE been talking to the management, for 2 years, and have
got no where, this action is the last resort.

"The union" *spit*

Dont you have the balls to talk to your own manager?

If you dont like your job, hand in your notice and leave. It's not
hard.

There speak someone from a different planet.

If you think it's hard, I am willing to write resignation letters for £10 per person. Bulk
discount too.

--
Everything I write here is my personal opinion, and should not be taken as fact.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:39:48 +0000, Paul Weaver wrote:

If you dont like your job, hand in your notice and leave. It's not hard.


What sort of job do you do? I always find the sudden reduction of my
salary by 100% quite an obstacle to leaving a job I migth be fed up with.

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* remove any trace of rudeness before you reply *

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Best Eurovision Song Title So Far:

"Vsichki Drehi Mi Prechat" - All Clothes are an Obstacle to Me
(Bulgaria)

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:43:54 +0000, loobyloo wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:39:48 +0000, Paul Weaver wrote:

If you dont like your job, hand in your notice and leave. It's not hard.


What sort of job do you do? I always find the sudden reduction of my
salary by 100% quite an obstacle to leaving a job I migth be fed up with.

I do a job which I was suited for after going to uni and spending 3 years
of my life running up £15,000 or debt. It pays a lot less then an
underground driver, but OTOH I didn't start when I was 18 and end up fully
trained on £30k by the time I was 20. Instead I took the long expensive
road in the hope of brighter carrer prospects in the future. I also put a
lot of free time into keeping my skills sharp so I have workforce
mobility.
--
Everything I write here is my personal opinion, and should not be taken as fact.

Paul Weaver wrote:

I do a job which I was suited for after going to uni and spending 3 years
of my life running up £15,000 or debt. It pays a lot less then an
underground driver, but OTOH I didn't start when I was 18 and end up fully
trained on £30k by the time I was 20. Instead I took the long expensive
road in the hope of brighter carrer prospects in the future. I also put a
lot of free time into keeping my skills sharp so I have workforce
mobility.

See, and then _you_ do have the prospect of increasing salary until you
retire. For the traindrivers it is these 30k throughout their
workinglife - apart from paydeals their unions worked out.

Not to forget that some people simply don't have the chance of attending
uni.

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:23:34 +0100, Guy Perry wrote:

Paul Weaver wrote:

I do a job which I was suited for after going to uni and spending 3 years
of my life running up £15,000 or debt. It pays a lot less then an
underground driver, but OTOH I didn't start when I was 18 and end up fully
trained on £30k by the time I was 20. Instead I took the long expensive
road in the hope of brighter carrer prospects in the future. I also put a
lot of free time into keeping my skills sharp so I have workforce
mobility.

See, and then _you_ do have the prospect of increasing salary until you
retire. For the traindrivers it is these 30k throughout their
workinglife - apart from paydeals their unions worked out.

Still 50% above the average wage of the country.

Not to forget that some people simply don't have the chance of attending
uni.

Pretty much everyone has the choice nowadays. Too many really, the country
needs more vocational training.

--
Everything I write here is my personal opinion, and should not be taken as fact.

Paul Weaver wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:23:34 +0100, Guy Perry wrote:

See, and then _you_ do have the prospect of increasing salary until you
retire. For the traindrivers it is these 30k throughout their
workinglife - apart from paydeals their unions worked out.


Still 50% above the average wage of the country.

But well within average of the profession of traindrivers so what's the
point? That everyone should only get paid the national average unless
they attended university? That everyone should only get paid a fixed
salary, irrelevant what or how hard they work (or at all when at work),
welcome to the already failed communist system.
I then propose that everyone should only get paid one quid a month and
try to cope with life and existing prices. I hope you understand how
ridiculous that would be, as is the continuous whining about LU's driver
salary.

Not to forget that some people simply don't have the chance of attending
uni.

Pretty much everyone has the choice nowadays. Too many really, the country
needs more vocational training.

Please do prove that to me. I doubt everyone can afford fees for uni.

Paul Weaver wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:43:54 +0000, loobyloo wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:39:48 +0000, Paul Weaver wrote:

If you dont like your job, hand in your notice and leave. It's not
hard.


What sort of job do you do? I always find the sudden reduction of my
salary by 100% quite an obstacle to leaving a job I migth be fed up
with.

I do a job which I was suited for after going to uni and spending 3
years of my life running up £15,000 or debt. It pays a lot less then
an underground driver, but OTOH I didn't start when I was 18 and end
up fully trained on £30k by the time I was 20. Instead I took the
long expensive road in the hope of brighter carrer prospects in the
future. I also put a lot of free time into keeping my skills sharp so
I have workforce mobility.

Which doesn't tell us what you do. You're not a lawyer or an accountant are
you?

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:47:19 +0000 (UTC), Brimstone wrote:


Which doesn't tell us what you do. You're not a lawyer or an accountant are
you?


I know Blackburn are struggling at the moment but I'd have thought they
paid more than tube drivers:
http://www.rovers.premiumtv.co.uk/pa...~31118,00.html
--
Cliff Laine, The Old Lard Factory, Lancaster http://www.loobynet.com
* remove any trace of rudeness before you reply *

---------------------------------------------------------
Best Eurovision Song Title So Far:

"Vsichki Drehi Mi Prechat" - All Clothes are an Obstacle to Me
(Bulgaria)